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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Ricard Wanderlof <ricard.wanderlof@axis.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Subject: Re: Race to power off harming SATA SSDs
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 13:50:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170508135005.0b9b200b@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1494238390.6528.42.camel@infradead.org>

On Mon, 08 May 2017 11:13:10 +0100
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2017-05-08 at 11:09 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > You're forgetting that the SSD itself (this thread is about SSDs) also has
> > a major software component which is doing housekeeping all the time, so even
> > if the main CPU gets reset the SSD's controller may still happily be erasing
> > blocks.  
> 
> We're not really talking about SSDs at all any more; we're talking
> about real flash with real maintainable software.

It's probably a good sign that this new discussion should take place in
a different thread :-).

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-08 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-10 23:21 Race to power off harming SATA SSDs Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-04-10 23:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-10 23:50   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-04-10 23:49 ` sd: wait for slow devices on shutdown path Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-04-10 23:52 ` Race to power off harming SATA SSDs Tejun Heo
2017-04-10 23:57   ` James Bottomley
2017-04-11  2:02     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-04-11  1:26   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-04-11 10:37   ` Martin Steigerwald
2017-04-11 14:31     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-04-12  7:47       ` Martin Steigerwald
2017-05-07 20:40   ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08  7:21     ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08  7:38       ` Ricard Wanderlof
2017-05-08  8:13         ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08  8:36           ` Ricard Wanderlof
2017-05-08  8:54             ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08  9:06               ` Ricard Wanderlof
2017-05-08  9:09                 ` Hans de Goede
2017-05-08 10:13                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08 11:50                     ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2017-05-08 15:40                       ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08 21:36                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 16:43                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 17:43                         ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-08 18:56                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 19:04                             ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-08 18:29                         ` Atlant Schmidt
2017-05-08 10:12                 ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08  9:28       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08  9:34         ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08 10:49           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 11:06             ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-08 11:48               ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-08 11:55                 ` Boris Brezillon
2017-05-08 12:13                 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-05-08 11:09             ` David Woodhouse
2017-05-08 12:32               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08  9:51         ` Richard Weinberger

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