From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: devzero@web.de Subject: Re: sata io freeze, 2.6.18 and also 2.6.24 [the real culprit] Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:03:39 +0200 Message-ID: <238986828@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]:37016 "EHLO fmmailgate04.web.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751038AbYDNWDl convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:03:41 -0400 Sender: linux-ide-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-ide@vger.kernel.org To: Luis Sousa Cc: jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org so - you told, you have your disk attached to this controller: 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAI= D Controller (rev 80) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Unknown device 0430 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16 I/O ports at ec00 [size=3D8] I/O ports at e800 [size=3D4] I/O ports at e400 [size=3D8] I/O ports at e000 [size=3D4] I/O ports at dc00 [size=3D16] I/O ports at d800 [size=3D256] Capabilities: and use sata_via module - and your system works stable with nosmp, but = freezes very soon on heavy i/o with smp. disabling dma makes no differe= nce. correct ? then i assume this could be an smp issue, probably a bug in sata_via an= d may need further investigation. there seem no noticeable changes in that driver since 2.6.24 - but mayb= e it`s worth trying 2.6.25-rc9 to see if it behaves different? absolutely nothing in dmesg on freeze ?=20 maybe you could try catching some message with attaching serial console= ? how reliably can you crash that box with lots of i/o ? just random cras= hes or after a certain amount of data written/read ? could you try if just reading from the raw blockdevice makes a differnc= e ? (dd if=3D/dev/sda of=3D/dev/zero) > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Luis Sousa" > Gesendet: 14.04.08 12:14:26 > An: devzero@web.de > CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Betreff: Re: sata io freeze, 2.6.18 and also 2.6.24 [the real culprit= ] >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I did as planned, and I dare to say now, with > relative certainty, that the reason I have had all > these instabilities, including application crashes, > sneaky corrupt backups, and the dreaded freezes > every other day was SMP and HyperThreading not working > properly. Booting with nosmp gives me a stable system. > Booting only with the sata-related arguments had > the system freeze overnight. >=20 > Sincerely, > -- > Luis Sousa >=20 > --- devzero@web.de escreveu: >=20 > > hi luis,=20 > >=20 > > glad that it worked - but let us better call this a possible workar= ound, not a solution. > >=20 > > mind that you loose lots of performance with this, because all i/o = is handled by the cpu > > now. > >=20 > > > If everything goes well, I'll reduce the command line > > > in order to narrow the problem further down. > >=20 > > yes, please! > >=20 > > regards > > roland > >=20 > >=20 > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: "Luis Sousa" > > > Gesendet: 12.04.08 17:34:39 > > > An: devzero@web.de > > > CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > > Betreff: Re: sata io freeze, 2.6.18 and also 2.6.24 [POSSIBLE SOL= UTION] > >=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Hello all, > > >=20 > > > Thanks to valuable help from roland, I was able to > > > boot with the following options: > > >=20 > > > ``nosmp ide=3Dnodma libata.dma=3D0'' > > >=20 > > > after what I ran an agressive stability test for a > > > while, with no problem whatsoever. Maybe it's too > > > soon to say, but I have a good feeling this time. It > > > seems roland figured it out. > > >=20 > > > If everything goes well, I'll reduce the command line > > > in order to narrow the problem further down. > > >=20 > > > (and indeed, this is a hyper-threading single core CPU) > > >=20 > > > Sincerely, > > > -- > > > Luis Sousa > > >=20 > > > --- devzero@web.de escreveu: > > >=20 > > > > did you try UP-kernel or tried booting with "nosmp" and does th= at make any difference > > ? > > > >=20 > > > > >This is a 2-processor CPU: > > > > ># cat /proc/cpuinfo=20 > > > > >processor : 0 > > > > >vendor_id : GenuineIntel > > > > >cpu family : 15 > > > > >model : 4 > > > > >model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz > > > >=20 > > > > most likely this just "appears" as 2-way processor , but i=B4m = quite sure this is just > > a > > > > single-core CPU, but with HyperThreading enabled. > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > regards > > > > roland > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > List: linux-kernel > > > > Subject: sata io freeze, 2.6.18 and also 2.6.24 > > > > From: Luis Sousa > > > > Date: 2008-03-28 22:24:48 > > > > Message-ID: 739784.81690.qm () web46009 ! mail ! sp1 ! yahoo ! = com > > > > [Download message RAW] > > > >=20 > > > > Hello, > > > >=20 > > > > I've been having consistent hard system freezes for a > > > > long time, every 2 days or so, and finally decided to > > > > move to the most recent stable kernel. Unfortunatelly > > > > that didn't fix it. The freezes seem to be io-related; > > > > they started since I moved my drive to sata. They seem > > > > to happen mostly when there's an io-intensive operation, > > > > like extracting a big archive; a reboot is needed. > > > >=20 > > > > Nothing ever shows up in the logs. > > > >=20 > > > > I'm using the following drive: > > > >=20 > > > > ATA device, with non-removable media > > > > Model Number: MAXTOR STM3160215AS = =20 > > > > Serial Number: 6RA2TMJ4 > > > > Firmware Revision: 3.AAD =20 > > > >=20 > > > > Linux localhost 2.6.24.4 #4 SMP Fri Mar 28 14:51:50 BRT 2008 i6= 86 GNU/Linux > > > >=20 > > > > This is a 2-processor CPU: > > > >=20 > > > > # cat /proc/cpuinfo=20 > > > > processor : 0 > > > > vendor_id : GenuineIntel > > > > cpu family : 15 > > > > model : 4 > > > > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz > > > > stepping : 9 > > > > cpu MHz : 3013.697 > > > > cache size : 1024 KB > > > >=20 > > > > (same goes for processor : 1) > > > >=20 > > > > Sincerely, > > > > -- > > > > Luis Sousa >=20 >=20 >=20 > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! 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