From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
Cc: linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libata DMADIR support
Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:32:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40A92F69.6030309@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1084828840.3211.26.camel@patibmrh9>
Pat LaVarre wrote:
> My memory of my share of the SATA ATAPI UDMA flurry tells me that my Si
> 3611CT80 r1.4 bridge hangs with status = xD0 if we ask it to copy DMA
> Data In, without having prepared op xA0 "PACKET" features = x05 DMA In
> rather than x01 DMA Out.
>
> Are you not convinced?
I am convinced that your hardware requires DMADIR.
I am not convinced that there is no way to detect this condition at
runtime, based on some hardware characteristic, or output.
> I agree, by connecting my compliant only-DMADIR-capable bridge to a
> compliant PATA DMA device I have ended up violating ATA/PI 6 by claiming
> classic UDMA in op xA1 "IDENTIFY" "word" 88 (line 12 offset 0), when in
> fact the abomination I built only actually supports the DMADIR that
> ATA/PI 7 claims will be described in "word" 62 (line 7 offset 6).
Well, the expected behavior is proper implementation of word 62, bit 15
at the very least :)
If hardware requires the DMADIR bit, it should set the feature bit that
says "I require DMADIR". If not, one could justifyably claim the
hardware is not operating to spec.
> I imagine I was not the first and I will not be the last to fall into
> this spiked pit. Particularly vulnerable will be the people who resell
> compliant PATA ATAPI UDMA devices and then fall into erroneously
> believing that adding a compliant SATA/PATA bridge makes a compliant
> SATA ATAPI UDMA device.
<shrug> Honestly, I think the requirement of a data-direction bit was
inevitable. I'm surprised you don't have one for ATA devices.
Consider: what data direction will a vendor-reserved SCSI opcode
require? The OS driver cannot know.
If you accept that premise, then these changes to ATA were required...
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-17 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-16 14:19 [PATCH] libata DMADIR support Pat LaVarre
2004-05-16 23:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-17 18:48 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-17 19:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-17 21:06 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-17 21:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-17 21:20 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-17 21:32 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-05-17 21:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-17 22:05 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-17 22:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-17 23:04 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-18 22:40 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-18 23:07 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-18 23:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-19 22:47 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-18 23:48 ` [PATCH] atapi request sense work Jeff Garzik
2004-05-19 20:35 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-19 22:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-19 22:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-19 22:27 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-19 22:54 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 1:58 ` Pat LaVarre
[not found] ` <6 E36A 11B-AACB-11D8-8B8A-003065635034@ieee.org>
2004-05-21 2:06 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 3:05 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 4:04 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <1 085153750.6103.33.camel@patibmrh9>
2004-05-21 15:35 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 15:46 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-21 17:59 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 20:07 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 21:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-21 23:12 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 23:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 23:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-21 23:57 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 23:39 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 23:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-22 0:06 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-22 0:12 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-22 0:33 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-22 1:11 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-26 21:49 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-27 23:12 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-27 23:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-27 23:38 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-27 23:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-28 0:13 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-28 1:28 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-24 15:27 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 21:59 ` Pat LaVarre
2004-05-21 18:23 ` Danny Cox
2004-05-21 18:39 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-21 18:55 ` [PATCH] kmalloc old_hwif Danny Cox
2004-05-21 19:00 ` [PATCH] atapi request sense work Danny Cox
2004-05-21 19:08 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
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2004-05-15 21:46 [PATCH] libata DMADIR support Jeff Garzik
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