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From: Brad Campbell <brad@wasp.net.au>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: libata dev_config call order wrong.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:12:24 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4132EF78.9000200@wasp.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1093805994.28289.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sul, 2004-08-29 at 19:25, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>According to the Serial ATA docs, IDENTIFY DEVICE word 93 will be zero 
>>if it's Serial ATA.  Who knows if that's true, given the wierd wild 
>>world of ATA devices.
> 
> 
> You need to check if word 93 is valid first. Same with things like the
> cache control word - its value is only meaningful if the drive says the
> word is meaningful.

I'm making some assumptions here based on information I could scrape up off the net.

IDENTIFY DEVICE Word 93 support has been mandatory at least since ATA-5.

ATA-5 did not have lba48 or > udma/66.

SATA->PATA bridge boards support > udma/33 and thus must emulate an 80 conductor cable.

Thus, any device capable of lba48 (and these are the ones that trigger the > 200 sector problem) 
must (according to the ATA-5 and up standard) support correct use of the IDENTIFY DEVICE word 93 
register.

Given that the SATA->PATA bridge boards support 80 pin detection, then bit 13 of word 93 must be 
high on any drive that supports lba48, and given the *current* sata spec states that word 93 must be 
zero, we should be able to use this detection method.

Now, remember I have been an "ATA researcher" for about 4 hours now, please feel free to belt me 
with the wet salmon of enlightenment and point out the flaw in my logic. Otherwise, when I get home 
this evening I'm going to have a crack and getting this working.

Regards,
Brad

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-30  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-29 17:09 libata dev_config call order wrong Brad Campbell
2004-08-29 17:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-29 17:47   ` Brad Campbell
2004-08-29 17:59     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-29 18:25       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-29 18:59         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-30  9:12           ` Brad Campbell [this message]
2004-08-30 13:22             ` Alan Cox
2004-08-30 14:38               ` Brad Campbell
2004-08-30 14:42         ` [PATCH] libata ATA vs SATA detection and workaround Brad Campbell
2004-08-30 14:57           ` Brad Campbell
2004-08-30 16:06             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-30 16:34               ` Brad Campbell
2004-08-30 16:37                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-30 17:17                   ` Brad Campbell
2004-08-30 17:59                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-08-31  7:47                       ` Brad Campbell

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