From: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.demon.co.uk>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@harddisk-recovery.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Driver retries disk errors.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:26:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41337153.60505@superbug.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040830174632.GA21419@thunk.org>
Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 06:39:31PM +0200, Rogier Wolff wrote:
>
>>We encounter "bad" drives with quite a lot more regularity than other
>>people (look at the Email address). We're however, wondering why the
>>IDE code still retries a bad block 8 times?
>
>
> I could see retrying 2 or 3 times, but 8 times does seem to be a bit
> much, agreed.
>
>
>>In fact we regularly are able to recover data from drives: we have a
>>userspace application that retries over and over again, and this
>>sometimes recovers "marginal" blocks. This could be considered "good
>>practise" if there is a filesystem requesting the block. On the other
>>hand, when this happens, the drive is usually beyond being usable for
>>a filesystem: if we recover one block this way, the next block will be
>>errorred and the filesystem "crashes" anyway. In fact this behaviour
>>may masquerade the first warnings that something is going wrong....
>
>
> If the block gets successfully read after 2 or 3 tries, it might be a
> good idea for the kernel to automatically do a forced rewrite of the
> block, which should cause the disk to do its own disk block
> sparing/reassignment.
>
> - Ted
It does the same retries with CD-ROM and DVDs, and if the retries fail,
it disables DMA! It even does the retries when reading CD-Audio.
Maybe there should be a "retrys" setting that can be set by hdparm, then
we could set the retry counts, and what happens when a retry fails on a
per device basis.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-30 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-30 16:39 Driver retries disk errors Rogier Wolff
2004-08-30 17:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-08-30 18:26 ` James Courtier-Dutton [this message]
2004-08-30 22:25 ` Rogier Wolff
2004-08-31 11:38 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-02 16:23 ` Eric Mudama
2004-08-30 22:17 ` Rogier Wolff
2004-08-31 11:45 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-31 13:45 ` Andre Hedrick
2004-08-31 13:54 ` Rogier Wolff
2004-08-31 14:12 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-31 15:56 ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-31 15:13 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-31 17:00 ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-31 16:12 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-31 22:55 ` Christer Weinigel
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