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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Andy Warner <andyw@pobox.com>
Cc: Brad Campbell <brad@wasp.net.au>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata oops 2.6.11-rc4 yesterdays BK
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:58:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4213DE38.70309@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050216174954.K10699@florence.linkmargin.com>

Andy Warner wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>[...]
>>Does the PIO code deviate from the ATA/ATAPI-[4567] host state machine 
>>somehow?
> 
> 
> That I can't say (the ata/atapi docs make me want to put my
> head under the wheel of a bus), but: on SMP machines the
> implementation would turn into busy-waiting for every sector;
> I have my suspicions about the ata_busy_wait() calls in
> ata_pio_block(); I also looked at implementing ATA_PROT_PIO_MULT
> with interrupt support, but then  ran out of time on the
> project - what's there doesn't (didn't) use interrupts.
> 
> 
>>Or is it just that newer SATA-emulating-PATA chips have trouble with it?
> 
> 
> Could be, I for sure saw arbitration/starvation issues that
> resulted in geological-grade delays getting status at the end
> of some PIO transfers. The result was timeout errors under
> heavy load. I believe that the SMP-machine-becomes-busy-wait-
> monster bug probably caused the majority of these errors (I
> could generate them after a few minutes testing), because I had
> 4 (fast-ish) cores conspiring to beat the crap out of 1 register
> on a PCI card.

Unfortunately, that's what you're _supposed_ to do, busy-wait for every 
"block" (where block == 1 sector for PIO, and <n> sectors for PIO-Mult).

Wasn't it you that had a patch that used ata_altstatus() to mitigate 
this somewhat?

It's entirely possible that I'm one of the first to punish SATA 
controllers with PIO polling data transfer, rather than interrupt-driven 
xfer.  The SMP aspect makes me suspicious that something else might be 
involved, as well.  Ever since the 2.6.10-bkN kernel updated ACPI, the 
one SMP machine I had that failed on libata started working.

Any chance you could debug this further?

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-16 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-16  4:28 libata oops 2.6.11-rc4 yesterdays BK Brad Campbell
2005-02-16 11:01 ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-16 17:25   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-16 20:54     ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-16 21:40       ` Andy Warner
2005-02-16 22:47         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-16 23:49           ` Andy Warner
2005-02-16 23:58             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-02-17  0:20               ` Andy Warner
2005-02-17  5:08                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-17 14:59                   ` Andy Warner
2005-02-17 19:13                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-17 19:25                       ` Andy Warner
2005-02-17 22:36                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-17 19:42                       ` Which SATA Combos To Consider? Danny Cox
2005-02-17 20:55                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-18  0:25                         ` Ryan Bourgeois
2005-02-18  0:44                           ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-18  0:52                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-21 23:50                               ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-21 23:50                               ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-22  1:55                                 ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-18  6:13         ` libata oops 2.6.11-rc4 yesterdays BK Brad Campbell
2005-02-19  4:14           ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-21  4:27             ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-22 10:09               ` Brad Campbell

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