From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Andy Warner <andyw@pobox.com>
Cc: Brad Campbell <brad@wasp.net.au>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata oops 2.6.11-rc4 yesterdays BK
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:58:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4213DE38.70309@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050216174954.K10699@florence.linkmargin.com>
Andy Warner wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>[...]
>>Does the PIO code deviate from the ATA/ATAPI-[4567] host state machine
>>somehow?
>
>
> That I can't say (the ata/atapi docs make me want to put my
> head under the wheel of a bus), but: on SMP machines the
> implementation would turn into busy-waiting for every sector;
> I have my suspicions about the ata_busy_wait() calls in
> ata_pio_block(); I also looked at implementing ATA_PROT_PIO_MULT
> with interrupt support, but then ran out of time on the
> project - what's there doesn't (didn't) use interrupts.
>
>
>>Or is it just that newer SATA-emulating-PATA chips have trouble with it?
>
>
> Could be, I for sure saw arbitration/starvation issues that
> resulted in geological-grade delays getting status at the end
> of some PIO transfers. The result was timeout errors under
> heavy load. I believe that the SMP-machine-becomes-busy-wait-
> monster bug probably caused the majority of these errors (I
> could generate them after a few minutes testing), because I had
> 4 (fast-ish) cores conspiring to beat the crap out of 1 register
> on a PCI card.
Unfortunately, that's what you're _supposed_ to do, busy-wait for every
"block" (where block == 1 sector for PIO, and <n> sectors for PIO-Mult).
Wasn't it you that had a patch that used ata_altstatus() to mitigate
this somewhat?
It's entirely possible that I'm one of the first to punish SATA
controllers with PIO polling data transfer, rather than interrupt-driven
xfer. The SMP aspect makes me suspicious that something else might be
involved, as well. Ever since the 2.6.10-bkN kernel updated ACPI, the
one SMP machine I had that failed on libata started working.
Any chance you could debug this further?
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-16 23:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-16 4:28 libata oops 2.6.11-rc4 yesterdays BK Brad Campbell
2005-02-16 11:01 ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-16 17:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-16 20:54 ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-16 21:40 ` Andy Warner
2005-02-16 22:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-16 23:49 ` Andy Warner
2005-02-16 23:58 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-02-17 0:20 ` Andy Warner
2005-02-17 5:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-17 14:59 ` Andy Warner
2005-02-17 19:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-17 19:25 ` Andy Warner
2005-02-17 22:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-17 19:42 ` Which SATA Combos To Consider? Danny Cox
2005-02-17 20:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-18 0:25 ` Ryan Bourgeois
2005-02-18 0:44 ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-18 0:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-21 23:50 ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-21 23:50 ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-22 1:55 ` Johny Ågotnes
2005-02-18 6:13 ` libata oops 2.6.11-rc4 yesterdays BK Brad Campbell
2005-02-19 4:14 ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-21 4:27 ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-22 10:09 ` Brad Campbell
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