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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 02:53:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4292CF5D.90809@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050524062128.GT9855@suse.de>

Jens Axboe wrote:
> suspend/resume is a lot more complicated than just flushing a cache, the
> below will probably get you safe asleep but you will never get devices
> alive again after power-up on suspend-to-ram.
> 
> I also greatly prefer issuing a standby command to the drive after the
> flush, so that we don't risk using the emergency parks of the drive. If
> a drive happens to lie about wrt the flush command, it gets an extra
> chance to flush the cache as it now knows that power will be gone very
> soon. So I think the ->suspend/->resume hooks should belong to the LLD,
> not the ULD as the ULD has no idea how to suspend all devices types.


You are right about issuing the standby command after flush.  I don't 
think an LLD hook is the proper way to accomplish it, however.

The SCSI layer needs to issue the START STOP UNIT command in response to 
a suspend event, and libata-scsi will (per SAT spec) translate that into 
the ATA standby command.  Merely following the relevant SCSI+SAT+ATA 
standards gets us there.

Longer term, SATA PM through SCSI will have three facets:

* Device PM.  This is best handled by the device class driver (sd/sr/st).

* Bus PM.  This is best handled by the transport class driver (need to 
write for SATA and SAS).

* Host PM.  This is handled in the obvious manner, using existing PM 
driver hooks.  PCI D0/D3, etc.

I can describe how this will look when libata is divorced from SCSI, if 
you would like, too...

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-24  6:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-23 20:15 [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 20:41 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-23 20:45   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 22:10     ` James Bottomley
2005-05-24  6:21       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  6:53         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-05-24  7:06           ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24  7:08             ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  7:16             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  7:07           ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  7:10             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  7:13               ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27  2:49                 ` libata, SCSI and storage drivers Jeff Garzik
2005-05-27  6:45                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-27 14:41                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24  7:14               ` [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24  7:15                 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  7:18                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 10:17                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-24 17:10                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  7:59           ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  8:21             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24  8:51               ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 16:37                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-25  9:29                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-25 23:40                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-26  1:05                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-26  5:57                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-26 22:56                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-05-27  6:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27  2:01                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-27  6:55                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 13:48           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24 17:29             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 13:05         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-27  2:54       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 16:27   ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:33     ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:04 ` Mark Lord

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