From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 03:16:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4292D4EA.8090308@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4292D275.8070409@suse.de>
Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
> [ .. ]
>
>>Longer term, SATA PM through SCSI will have three facets:
>>
>>* Device PM. This is best handled by the device class driver (sd/sr/st).
>>
>>* Bus PM. This is best handled by the transport class driver (need to
>>write for SATA and SAS).
>>
>>* Host PM. This is handled in the obvious manner, using existing PM
>>driver hooks. PCI D0/D3, etc.
>>
>>I can describe how this will look when libata is divorced from SCSI, if
>>you would like, too...
>
>
> Divorced from SCSI? Care to elaborate?
General Linux thesis: translation and emulation are lame. Adds
needless overhead. One should write a "bare metal" driver.
libata should be able to export a native block driver for ATA devices,
making libata-scsi.c simply an optional "T10 SAT implementation" that
users can retain for compatibility and certain features, or excise for
lower overhead.
As ATAPI is converging with SCSI MMC -- the two committes are actively
aligning the standards -- I would prefer to handle ATAPI devices through
the SCSI layer.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-24 7:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-23 20:15 [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 20:41 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-23 20:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 22:10 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-24 6:21 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 6:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:06 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 7:16 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-05-24 7:07 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 7:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:13 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27 2:49 ` libata, SCSI and storage drivers Jeff Garzik
2005-05-27 6:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-27 14:41 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24 7:14 ` [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Hannes Reinecke
2005-05-24 7:15 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 7:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 10:17 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-24 17:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:59 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 8:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 8:51 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 16:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-25 9:29 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-25 23:40 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-26 1:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-26 5:57 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-26 22:56 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-05-27 6:54 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27 2:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-27 6:55 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 13:48 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24 17:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 13:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-27 2:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 16:27 ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:33 ` Mark Lord
2005-05-24 16:04 ` Mark Lord
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