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* [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume
@ 2005-05-23 20:15 Jeff Garzik
  2005-05-23 20:41 ` James Bottomley
  2005-05-24 16:04 ` Mark Lord
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 44+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Garzik @ 2005-05-23 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-scsi, linux-ide; +Cc: James Bottomley


Patch 2/2 for review by the linux-scsi crowd.

Please do not apply.



Patch is via Mark Lord, 

It's not ready for upstream, but I am posting it for two reasons:

1) People might find the feature useful (warning warning do not use in
production, just a test feature, might cook your hard drive and all your
data, standard disclaimer...)

2) Get comments from linux-scsi folks about the SCSI changes.




Index: drivers/scsi/ahci.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/ahci.c  (mode:100644 sha1:da5bd33d982d7e521b6b0603adcb0911395b184d)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/ahci.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -201,6 +201,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations ahci_ops = {
@@ -272,6 +274,8 @@
 	.id_table		= ahci_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= ahci_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 
Index: drivers/scsi/ata_piix.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/ata_piix.c  (mode:100644 sha1:3867f91ef8c7bebe3d0edf0bd2e3b326a1d4061b)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/ata_piix.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -104,6 +104,8 @@
 	.id_table		= piix_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= piix_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 static Scsi_Host_Template piix_sht = {
@@ -124,6 +126,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations piix_pata_ops = {
Index: drivers/scsi/libata-core.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/libata-core.c  (mode:100644 sha1:0b5d3a5b7edab5ce17889a0e698805ce346b4d1a)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/libata-core.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -3299,6 +3299,104 @@
 	ata_qc_complete(qc, ATA_ERR);
 }
 
+/*
+ * Execute a 'simple' command, that only consists of the opcode 'cmd' itself,
+ * without filling any other registers
+ */
+static int ata_do_simple_cmd(struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_device *dev,
+			     u8 cmd)
+{
+	DECLARE_COMPLETION(wait);
+	struct ata_queued_cmd *qc;
+	unsigned long flags;
+	int rc;
+
+	qc = ata_qc_new_init(ap, dev);
+	BUG_ON(qc == NULL);
+
+	qc->tf.command = cmd;
+	qc->tf.flags |= ATA_TFLAG_DEVICE;
+	qc->tf.protocol = ATA_PROT_NODATA;
+
+	qc->waiting = &wait;
+	qc->complete_fn = ata_qc_complete_noop;
+
+	spin_lock_irqsave(&ap->host_set->lock, flags);
+	rc = ata_qc_issue(qc);
+	spin_unlock_irqrestore(&ap->host_set->lock, flags);
+
+	if (!rc)
+		wait_for_completion(&wait);
+
+	return rc;
+}
+
+static int ata_flush_cache(struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_device *dev)
+{
+	u8 cmd;
+
+	if (!ata_try_flush_cache(dev))
+		return 0;
+
+	if (ata_id_has_flush_ext(dev->id))
+		cmd = ATA_CMD_FLUSH_EXT;
+	else
+		cmd = ATA_CMD_FLUSH;
+
+	return ata_do_simple_cmd(ap, dev, cmd);
+}
+
+static int ata_standby_drive(struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_device *dev)
+{
+	return ata_do_simple_cmd(ap, dev, ATA_CMD_STANDBYNOW1);
+}
+
+static int ata_start_drive(struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_device *dev)
+{
+	return ata_do_simple_cmd(ap, dev, ATA_CMD_IDLEIMMEDIATE);
+}
+
+/**
+ *	ata_device_resume - wakeup a previously suspended devices
+ *
+ *	Kick the drive back into action, by sending it an idle immediate
+ *	command and making sure its transfer mode matches between drive
+ *	and host.
+ *
+ */
+int ata_device_resume(struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_device *dev)
+{
+	if (ap->flags & ATA_FLAG_SUSPENDED) {
+		ap->flags &= ~ATA_FLAG_SUSPENDED;
+		ata_set_mode(ap);
+	}
+	if (!ata_dev_present(dev))
+		return 0;
+	if (dev->class == ATA_DEV_ATA)
+		ata_start_drive(ap, dev);
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
+/**
+ *	ata_device_suspend - prepare a device for suspend
+ *
+ *	Flush the cache on the drive, if appropriate, then issue a
+ *	standbynow command.
+ *
+ */
+int ata_device_suspend(struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_device *dev)
+{
+	if (!ata_dev_present(dev))
+		return 0;
+	if (dev->class == ATA_DEV_ATA)
+		ata_flush_cache(ap, dev);
+
+	ata_standby_drive(ap, dev);
+	ap->flags |= ATA_FLAG_SUSPENDED;
+	return 0;
+}
+
 int ata_port_start (struct ata_port *ap)
 {
 	struct device *dev = ap->host_set->dev;
@@ -3937,6 +4035,23 @@
 
 	return (tmp == bits->val) ? 1 : 0;
 }
+
+int ata_pci_device_suspend(struct pci_dev *pdev, pm_message_t state)
+{
+	pci_save_state(pdev);
+	pci_disable_device(pdev);
+	pci_set_power_state(pdev, PCI_D3hot);
+	return 0;
+}
+
+int ata_pci_device_resume(struct pci_dev *pdev)
+{
+	pci_set_power_state(pdev, PCI_D0);
+	pci_restore_state(pdev);
+	pci_enable_device(pdev);
+	pci_set_master(pdev);
+	return 0;
+}
 #endif /* CONFIG_PCI */
 
 
@@ -4021,4 +4136,11 @@
 EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_pci_init_native_mode);
 EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_pci_init_one);
 EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_pci_remove_one);
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_pci_device_suspend);
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_pci_device_resume);
 #endif /* CONFIG_PCI */
+
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_device_suspend);
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_device_resume);
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_scsi_device_suspend);
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ata_scsi_device_resume);
Index: drivers/scsi/libata-scsi.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/libata-scsi.c  (mode:100644 sha1:4c96df060c3bad9af44ab4c4664d8cba38c63030)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/libata-scsi.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -387,6 +387,22 @@
 	return 0;
 }
 
+int ata_scsi_device_resume(struct scsi_device *sdev)
+{
+	struct ata_port *ap = (struct ata_port *) &sdev->host->hostdata[0];
+	struct ata_device *dev = &ap->device[sdev->id];
+
+	return ata_device_resume(ap, dev);
+}
+
+int ata_scsi_device_suspend(struct scsi_device *sdev)
+{
+	struct ata_port *ap = (struct ata_port *) &sdev->host->hostdata[0];
+	struct ata_device *dev = &ap->device[sdev->id];
+
+	return ata_device_suspend(ap, dev);
+}
+
 /**
  *	ata_scsi_flush_xlat - Translate SCSI SYNCHRONIZE CACHE command
  *	@qc: Storage for translated ATA taskfile
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_nv.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_nv.c  (mode:100644 sha1:69009f853a4917f54a88aa0c2cf3e6fb0428c8f7)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_nv.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -187,6 +187,8 @@
 	.id_table		= nv_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= nv_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 static Scsi_Host_Template nv_sht = {
@@ -207,6 +209,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations nv_ops = {
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_promise.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_promise.c  (mode:100644 sha1:19a13e3590f4eca5fab24675ffec12aaa56dd57f)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_promise.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -103,6 +103,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations pdc_ata_ops = {
@@ -178,6 +180,8 @@
 	.id_table		= pdc_ata_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= pdc_ata_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_qstor.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_qstor.c  (mode:100644 sha1:dfd3621047171dc748ba9a11c82a418f89faaed6)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_qstor.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -140,6 +140,8 @@
 	.dma_boundary		= QS_DMA_BOUNDARY,
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations qs_ata_ops = {
@@ -191,6 +193,8 @@
 	.id_table		= qs_ata_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= qs_ata_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 static int qs_check_atapi_dma(struct ata_queued_cmd *qc)
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_sil.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_sil.c  (mode:100644 sha1:f0489dc302a03054d6461ba54c9705f30190a8f4)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_sil.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -115,6 +115,8 @@
 	.id_table		= sil_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= sil_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 static Scsi_Host_Template sil_sht = {
@@ -135,6 +137,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations sil_ops = {
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_sis.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_sis.c  (mode:100644 sha1:5105ddd08447807df3710492f70c31bf6f0d8767)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_sis.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -71,6 +71,8 @@
 	.id_table		= sis_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= sis_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 static Scsi_Host_Template sis_sht = {
@@ -91,6 +93,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations sis_ops = {
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_svw.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_svw.c  (mode:100644 sha1:8d1a5d25c05364e41e7f98198b94335ed30d0046)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_svw.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -289,6 +289,8 @@
 #endif
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 
@@ -458,6 +460,8 @@
 	.id_table		= k2_sata_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= k2_sata_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_sx4.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_sx4.c  (mode:100644 sha1:70118650c461e9d5d10ff0c3053ae5b49c6755a0)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_sx4.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -189,6 +189,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations pdc_20621_ops = {
@@ -235,6 +237,8 @@
 	.id_table		= pdc_sata_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= pdc_sata_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_uli.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_uli.c  (mode:100644 sha1:0bff4f475f262c5c40254aecf85bd6a7137bd04e)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_uli.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -63,6 +63,8 @@
 	.id_table		= uli_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= uli_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 static Scsi_Host_Template uli_sht = {
@@ -83,6 +85,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations uli_ops = {
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_via.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_via.c  (mode:100644 sha1:3a7830667277f35f71a83db5705b8cb2d376bafc)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_via.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -83,6 +83,8 @@
 	.id_table		= svia_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= svia_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 static Scsi_Host_Template svia_sht = {
@@ -103,6 +105,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 static struct ata_port_operations svia_sata_ops = {
Index: drivers/scsi/sata_vsc.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/sata_vsc.c  (mode:100644 sha1:2c28f0ad73c204420aa4b419a60341a8b801d7fa)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/sata_vsc.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -206,6 +206,8 @@
 	.slave_configure	= ata_scsi_slave_config,
 	.bios_param		= ata_std_bios_param,
 	.ordered_flush		= 1,
+	.resume			= ata_scsi_device_resume,
+	.suspend		= ata_scsi_device_suspend,
 };
 
 
@@ -382,6 +384,8 @@
 	.id_table		= vsc_sata_pci_tbl,
 	.probe			= vsc_sata_init_one,
 	.remove			= ata_pci_remove_one,
+	.suspend		= ata_pci_device_suspend,
+	.resume			= ata_pci_device_resume,
 };
 
 
Index: drivers/scsi/scsi_lib.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/scsi_lib.c  (mode:100644 sha1:d18da21c9c57e0ef590369ea815b7b1adba4042b)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/scsi_lib.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -1855,8 +1855,9 @@
 void
 scsi_device_resume(struct scsi_device *sdev)
 {
-	if(scsi_device_set_state(sdev, SDEV_RUNNING))
+	if (scsi_device_set_state(sdev, SDEV_RUNNING))
 		return;
+
 	scsi_run_queue(sdev->request_queue);
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(scsi_device_resume);
Index: drivers/scsi/scsi_sysfs.c
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/drivers/scsi/scsi_sysfs.c  (mode:100644 sha1:e75ee4671ee3a0a6dcb608a73d6bd2f4007eff09)
+++ uncommitted/drivers/scsi/scsi_sysfs.c  (mode:100644)
@@ -199,9 +199,40 @@
 	return (sdp->inq_periph_qual == SCSI_INQ_PQ_CON)? 1: 0;
 }
 
+static int scsi_bus_suspend(struct device * dev, pm_message_t state)
+{
+	struct scsi_device *sdev = to_scsi_device(dev);
+	struct scsi_host_template *sht = sdev->host->hostt;
+	int err;
+
+	err = scsi_device_quiesce(sdev);
+	if (err)
+		return err;
+
+	if (sht->suspend)
+		err = sht->suspend(sdev);
+
+	return err;
+}
+
+static int scsi_bus_resume(struct device * dev)
+{
+	struct scsi_device *sdev = to_scsi_device(dev);
+	struct scsi_host_template *sht = sdev->host->hostt;
+	int err = 0;
+
+	if (sht->resume)
+		err = sht->resume(sdev);
+
+	scsi_device_resume(sdev);
+	return err;
+}
+
 struct bus_type scsi_bus_type = {
         .name		= "scsi",
         .match		= scsi_bus_match,
+	.suspend	= scsi_bus_suspend,
+	.resume		= scsi_bus_resume,
 };
 
 int scsi_sysfs_register(void)
Index: include/linux/ata.h
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/include/linux/ata.h  (mode:100644 sha1:f178894edd04f954a4f650661175b5fe009011c6)
+++ uncommitted/include/linux/ata.h  (mode:100644)
@@ -125,6 +125,8 @@
 	ATA_CMD_PACKET		= 0xA0,
 	ATA_CMD_VERIFY		= 0x40,
 	ATA_CMD_VERIFY_EXT	= 0x42,
+	ATA_CMD_STANDBYNOW1	= 0xE0,
+	ATA_CMD_IDLEIMMEDIATE	= 0xE1,
 
 	/* SETFEATURES stuff */
 	SETFEATURES_XFER	= 0x03,
Index: include/linux/libata.h
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/include/linux/libata.h  (mode:100644 sha1:505160ab472b0198ec5393380ce7c21b2fad85d1)
+++ uncommitted/include/linux/libata.h  (mode:100644)
@@ -113,6 +113,7 @@
 	ATA_FLAG_MMIO		= (1 << 6), /* use MMIO, not PIO */
 	ATA_FLAG_SATA_RESET	= (1 << 7), /* use COMRESET */
 	ATA_FLAG_PIO_DMA	= (1 << 8), /* PIO cmds via DMA */
+	ATA_FLAG_SUSPENDED	= (1 << 9), /* port is suspended */
 
 	ATA_QCFLAG_ACTIVE	= (1 << 1), /* cmd not yet ack'd to scsi lyer */
 	ATA_QCFLAG_SG		= (1 << 3), /* have s/g table? */
@@ -387,6 +388,8 @@
 extern int ata_pci_init_one (struct pci_dev *pdev, struct ata_port_info **port_info,
 			     unsigned int n_ports);
 extern void ata_pci_remove_one (struct pci_dev *pdev);
+extern int ata_pci_device_suspend(struct pci_dev *pdev, pm_message_t state);
+extern int ata_pci_device_resume(struct pci_dev *pdev);
 #endif /* CONFIG_PCI */
 extern int ata_device_add(struct ata_probe_ent *ent);
 extern int ata_scsi_detect(Scsi_Host_Template *sht);
@@ -395,6 +398,10 @@
 extern int ata_scsi_error(struct Scsi_Host *host);
 extern int ata_scsi_release(struct Scsi_Host *host);
 extern unsigned int ata_host_intr(struct ata_port *ap, struct ata_queued_cmd *qc);
+extern int ata_scsi_device_resume(struct scsi_device *);
+extern int ata_scsi_device_suspend(struct scsi_device *);
+extern int ata_device_resume(struct ata_port *, struct ata_device *);
+extern int ata_device_suspend(struct ata_port *, struct ata_device *);
 /*
  * Default driver ops implementations
  */
Index: include/scsi/scsi_host.h
===================================================================
--- b023d524fb0a3b71aa0b957ce7c5540611497370/include/scsi/scsi_host.h  (mode:100644 sha1:1cee1e100943dafe00c14d5329b73659062a4d1a)
+++ uncommitted/include/scsi/scsi_host.h  (mode:100644)
@@ -270,6 +270,12 @@
 	int (*proc_info)(struct Scsi_Host *, char *, char **, off_t, int, int);
 
 	/*
+	 * suspend support
+	 */
+	int (*resume)(struct scsi_device *);
+	int (*suspend)(struct scsi_device *);
+
+	/*
 	 * Name of proc directory
 	 */
 	char *proc_name;


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* RE: libata, SCSI and storage drivers
@ 2005-05-27 12:42 James.Smart
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 44+ messages in thread
From: James.Smart @ 2005-05-27 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dougg, jgarzik; +Cc: axboe, James.Bottomley, linux-scsi, linux-ide

FYI -  There is currently a standards proposal in T11 for the
following scenario:

  c) FC HBA  <--------> FC fabric/loop <------>  SATA disk

In this case, the SAT layer could be in the FC HBA firmware or
in the FC driver (or whatever linux transport exists).  A demo for
this scenario was shown recently at SNW.

Also - I expect to see more and more implementations with the
SAS Expander tightly integrated to the SAS HBA/phys.

-- james s


> Jeff,
> Yes, the SAS HBAs that I'm aware of can connect to
> SATA I/II disks "directly" on their phys.
> 
> So here are two scenarios for connecting SATA disks:
> 
> a)
>   SAS HBA < -------------------------> SATA disk
> 
> b)
>   SAS HBA <------>SAS_expander<------> SATA disk
> 
> In a) the interconnect is SATA. Still it is hard
> to believe that the SAS HBA LLD would belong to
> anything other than the SCSI subsystem (since
> SAS HBAs come with 4 or 8 phys, others of which could
> be in scenario b) and/or connected to SAS disks).
> Hence the initiator_ports/phys/target_ports on and
> seen by that SAS HBA should (also) have SAS transport
> classes.
> 
> When a SAS HBA phy is not connected to anything is it
> a member of a SAS transport class or a ATA transport
> class (or both)?
> 
> In scenario b) the left interconnect is SAS and the
> right interconnect is SATA. The SAS_expander contains
> the STP<->SATA bridging function (and, for sake of
> argument, no SCSI-ATA Translation (SAT) layer).
> Would scenario b) also have a ATA transport
> class? I'll assume it does. To be discovered it also
> needs a SAS transport class. Larger enclosures are
> likely to be amplifications of scenario b). The presence
> of the SATA disk in scenario b) will be discovered via
> the SAS SMP (i.e. talking to the SAS_expander) or via
> the SES protocol (i.e. a SCSI Enclosure Services target
> running near the SAS_expander). Either way if there are
> a lot of SATA disks then they are likely to be held
> in their initialization sequence to stop them spinning
> up all at once. SAS transport intervention may be
> required (staggered timers are another possibility).
> 
> Now I may be wrong but I think that one of the SAS HBAs
> that I have read about that looks (externally) like
> scenario a) but is actually scenario b). In other words
> the SAS_expander is silicon on the HBA and it is not
> controlled via the PCI bus, but rather by SMP.
> 
> This suggests to me we would need an ordered sequence of
> transport classes. I really wonder about trying to model
> this level of complexity in sysfs, plus the nightmare of
> keeping state data of (topologically) distant nodes up
> to date. At some point one needs to supply a management
> pass through and hand the problem over to the user
> space. The question is, at what point.
> 
> 
> There are already FCP enclosures filled with SATA disks
> on the market so this problem in not unique to SAS.
> However they have (I presume) a SAT layer in their
> FC enclosures so the OS thinks it is taking to SCSI
> disks.
> 
> Doug Gilbert
> 
> 
> 
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* RE: libata, SCSI and storage drivers
@ 2005-05-27 14:26 James.Smart
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 44+ messages in thread
From: James.Smart @ 2005-05-27 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James.Smart, dougg, jgarzik; +Cc: axboe, James.Bottomley, linux-scsi, linux-ide

Also, I should note that plain ATA (no SAT) is valid in this
configuration as well.

-- james s

> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Smart, James
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:43 AM
> To: dougg@torque.net; jgarzik@pobox.com
> Cc: axboe@suse.de; James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com;
> linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org; linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: RE: libata, SCSI and storage drivers
> 
> 
> FYI -  There is currently a standards proposal in T11 for the
> following scenario:
> 
>   c) FC HBA  <--------> FC fabric/loop <------>  SATA disk
> 
> In this case, the SAT layer could be in the FC HBA firmware or
> in the FC driver (or whatever linux transport exists).  A demo for
> this scenario was shown recently at SNW.
> 
> Also - I expect to see more and more implementations with the
> SAS Expander tightly integrated to the SAS HBA/phys.
> 
> -- james s
> 
> 
> > Jeff,
> > Yes, the SAS HBAs that I'm aware of can connect to
> > SATA I/II disks "directly" on their phys.
> > 
> > So here are two scenarios for connecting SATA disks:
> > 
> > a)
> >   SAS HBA < -------------------------> SATA disk
> > 
> > b)
> >   SAS HBA <------>SAS_expander<------> SATA disk
> > 
> > In a) the interconnect is SATA. Still it is hard
> > to believe that the SAS HBA LLD would belong to
> > anything other than the SCSI subsystem (since
> > SAS HBAs come with 4 or 8 phys, others of which could
> > be in scenario b) and/or connected to SAS disks).
> > Hence the initiator_ports/phys/target_ports on and
> > seen by that SAS HBA should (also) have SAS transport
> > classes.
> > 
> > When a SAS HBA phy is not connected to anything is it
> > a member of a SAS transport class or a ATA transport
> > class (or both)?
> > 
> > In scenario b) the left interconnect is SAS and the
> > right interconnect is SATA. The SAS_expander contains
> > the STP<->SATA bridging function (and, for sake of
> > argument, no SCSI-ATA Translation (SAT) layer).
> > Would scenario b) also have a ATA transport
> > class? I'll assume it does. To be discovered it also
> > needs a SAS transport class. Larger enclosures are
> > likely to be amplifications of scenario b). The presence
> > of the SATA disk in scenario b) will be discovered via
> > the SAS SMP (i.e. talking to the SAS_expander) or via
> > the SES protocol (i.e. a SCSI Enclosure Services target
> > running near the SAS_expander). Either way if there are
> > a lot of SATA disks then they are likely to be held
> > in their initialization sequence to stop them spinning
> > up all at once. SAS transport intervention may be
> > required (staggered timers are another possibility).
> > 
> > Now I may be wrong but I think that one of the SAS HBAs
> > that I have read about that looks (externally) like
> > scenario a) but is actually scenario b). In other words
> > the SAS_expander is silicon on the HBA and it is not
> > controlled via the PCI bus, but rather by SMP.
> > 
> > This suggests to me we would need an ordered sequence of
> > transport classes. I really wonder about trying to model
> > this level of complexity in sysfs, plus the nightmare of
> > keeping state data of (topologically) distant nodes up
> > to date. At some point one needs to supply a management
> > pass through and hand the problem over to the user
> > space. The question is, at what point.
> > 
> > 
> > There are already FCP enclosures filled with SATA disks
> > on the market so this problem in not unique to SAS.
> > However they have (I presume) a SAT layer in their
> > FC enclosures so the OS thinks it is taking to SCSI
> > disks.
> > 
> > Doug Gilbert
> > 
> > 
> > 
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* RE: libata, SCSI and storage drivers
@ 2005-05-27 17:45 James.Smart
  2005-05-27 18:05 ` Jeff Garzik
  2005-05-27 19:04 ` James Bottomley
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 44+ messages in thread
From: James.Smart @ 2005-05-27 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: luben_tuikov, dougg
  Cc: jgarzik, axboe, James.Bottomley, linux-scsi, linux-ide

Folks,

This discussion brings up some latent questions...

The transport can be a subsystem on it's own and is perhaps independent
of SCSI altogether. In this case, SCSI just happens to be a personality
of something on the transport. This is at odds with the current design
in which the transport is something under SCSI and inherently bound to
the SCSI "host".

I understand how we got to where we are, but shouldn't we consider making
some transports independent subsystems ? If the only protocol that
can be run on the transport is SCSI (ex: SPI), then the transport can be
under SCSI. However, if the transport can support multiple protocols (FC
can support SCSI, IP, (or ATA)), shouldn't it be structured more like an io
bus like pci ? 

It does mess up the device tree heirarchy. In general, you want the
device tree to continue along the transport specific elements until it finds
remote endpoints (things your going to use), at which point the protocol
specific elements can kick in. For example (using FC):
 /sys/devices/<pci>/fcport5/rport-5:3/target10:0:0/10:0:0:0  - the SCSI lun

What this leaves out is : where is the scsi host device ? It doesn't make
sense to insert it in-between the transport elements. It likely just becomes
a leaf entity. Continuing the example:
 /sys/devices/<pci>/fcport5/host10  - scsi host interface
 /sys/devices/<pci>/fcport5/eth3    - network interface

Food for thought...   Is this out in left field ?

-- james s


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Luben Tuikov
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:42 AM
> To: dougg@torque.net
> Cc: Jeff Garzik; Jens Axboe; James Bottomley; SCSI Mailing List;
> linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: libata, SCSI and storage drivers
> 
> 
> On 05/27/05 02:45, Douglas Gilbert wrote:
> > In a) the interconnect is SATA. Still it is hard
> > to believe that the SAS HBA LLD would belong to
> > anything other than the SCSI subsystem (since
> > SAS HBAs come with 4 or 8 phys, others of which could
> > be in scenario b) and/or connected to SAS disks).
> > Hence the initiator_ports/phys/target_ports on and
> > seen by that SAS HBA should (also) have SAS transport
> > classes.
> 
> It should register with the SAS transport class, where
> the SAS discover "function" is.  The Discover function
> would find out what is out on the domain and "register"
> it with the proper "transport" (a more correct way to
> put it there is).
> 
> For SSP devices that would be a "scsi disk", for
> SATA devices that would be a "libata disk" or something
> like this.  The LLDD would either get a CDB for SSP,
> or taskfile for STP, and pass it along to the hardware.
>  
> > When a SAS HBA phy is not connected to anything is it
> > a member of a SAS transport class or a ATA transport
> > class (or both)?
> 
> Quite possibly both: SAS transport class, since it is
> a super class in meaning that the Discover function
> is in there.
>  
> > In scenario b) the left interconnect is SAS and the
> > right interconnect is SATA. The SAS_expander contains
> > the STP<->SATA bridging function (and, for sake of
> > argument, no SCSI-ATA Translation (SAT) layer).
> > Would scenario b) also have a ATA transport
> > class? I'll assume it does. To be discovered it also
> 
> Yes it would.  As far as the class is concerned it
> is a SATA device -- how you get to it (direct or through
> an expander) is the LLDD/firmware/Host Adapter concern.
> 
> > needs a SAS transport class. Larger enclosures are
> > likely to be amplifications of scenario b). The presence
> > of the SATA disk in scenario b) will be discovered via
> > the SAS SMP (i.e. talking to the SAS_expander) or via
> > the SES protocol (i.e. a SCSI Enclosure Services target
> > running near the SAS_expander). Either way if there are
> > a lot of SATA disks then they are likely to be held
> > in their initialization sequence to stop them spinning
> > up all at once. SAS transport intervention may be
> > required (staggered timers are another possibility).
> 
> Yes, spinup-hold states would be managed by the Discover
> function, or by the FW on the expander/ses device.
> 
> BTW, very nice to mention SES devices.  We'll have to
> bring that up more as they'd be very much en vogue
> with expanders.
> 
> > Now I may be wrong but I think that one of the SAS HBAs
> > that I have read about that looks (externally) like
> > scenario a) but is actually scenario b). In other words
> > the SAS_expander is silicon on the HBA and it is not
> > controlled via the PCI bus, but rather by SMP.
> 
> I know of such a SAS HA (Host Adapter), and from what it
> seems the role of the expander-on-chip is to simulate
> a larger number of phys than actually/physically supported
> by the HA.  By design, this should be transparent to the
> Discover function, and if it is not, I believe the Discover
> fn. would do the right thing (i.e. treat is as an expander).
> 
> > This suggests to me we would need an ordered sequence of
> > transport classes. I really wonder about trying to model
> > this level of complexity in sysfs, plus the nightmare of
> > keeping state data of (topologically) distant nodes up
> > to date. At some point one needs to supply a management
> 
> When a SSP talking device is found it is registered
> as a "scsi device".  When a STP talking device is
> discovered (directly attached or elsewhere) it would
> be registered as a "libata device".
> 
> > pass through and hand the problem over to the user
> > space. The question is, at what point.
> 
> I'm not 100% sure about user space.  The Discover function
> is pretty straightforward, and simple.  Plus the root/bootable
> device could be a SATA device on an expander or even deeper
> in the domain.
> 
> Thanks,
> 	Luben
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2005-05-27  2:49                 ` libata, SCSI and storage drivers Jeff Garzik
2005-05-27  6:45                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-27 14:41                     ` Luben Tuikov
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2005-05-24  7:15                 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24  7:18                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 10:17                   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-24 17:10                     ` Jeff Garzik
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2005-05-24 16:37                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-25  9:29                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-25 23:40                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-26  1:05                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-26  5:57                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-26 22:56                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-05-27  6:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27  2:01                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-27  6:55                       ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 13:48           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-24 17:29             ` Jeff Garzik
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2005-05-27  2:54       ` Jeff Garzik
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