From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: James.Smart@Emulex.Com
Cc: luben_tuikov@adaptec.com, dougg@torque.net, axboe@suse.de,
James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata, SCSI and storage drivers
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:05:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42976166.3090508@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9BB4DECD4CFE6D43AA8EA8D768ED51C201AC3D@xbl3.ad.emulex.com>
James.Smart@Emulex.Com wrote:
> Folks,
>
> This discussion brings up some latent questions...
>
> The transport can be a subsystem on it's own and is perhaps independent
> of SCSI altogether. In this case, SCSI just happens to be a personality
> of something on the transport. This is at odds with the current design
> in which the transport is something under SCSI and inherently bound to
> the SCSI "host".
Yes. This is something I really want to change, for libata.
> I understand how we got to where we are, but shouldn't we consider making
> some transports independent subsystems ? If the only protocol that
> can be run on the transport is SCSI (ex: SPI), then the transport can be
> under SCSI. However, if the transport can support multiple protocols (FC
> can support SCSI, IP, (or ATA)), shouldn't it be structured more like an io
> bus like pci ?
Unfortunately this is an open-ended question that Linux is rather poor
at answering, since the answer could range from "no" to "show me the
code" to "you're an absolute visionary!" :)
My own opinion:
I consciously avoid thinking too much in that direction. Linux
development is a lot like a biological process. The evolution of the
kernel code over time will give us the best answer.
Perhaps we will merge request_queue and network stack systems into a
single "packet transport" system. Perhaps net stack and request_queue
systems will stay separate, and request_queue will evolve into a
generalized system for RPC message transport.
With the device model, both IDE [as of yesterday] and SCSI -already-
export bus topology in a standardized manner, just like PCI.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-27 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-27 17:45 libata, SCSI and storage drivers James.Smart
2005-05-27 18:05 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-05-27 19:04 ` James Bottomley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-27 14:26 James.Smart
2005-05-27 12:42 James.Smart
2005-05-23 20:15 [PATCH] libata: device suspend/resume Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 20:41 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-23 20:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-23 22:10 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-24 6:21 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 6:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:07 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-24 7:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-05-24 7:13 ` Jens Axboe
2005-05-27 2:49 ` libata, SCSI and storage drivers Jeff Garzik
2005-05-27 6:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-27 14:41 ` Luben Tuikov
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