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From: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Albert Lee <albertcc@tw.ibm.com>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Doug Maxey <dwm@maxeymade.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] libata new EH document
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:32:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43146DE7.1070501@adaptec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43143461.7040606@gmail.com>

On 08/30/05 06:26, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Albert Lee wrote:
> 
>>>4. Corresponding scmd's result code is set to
>>>   SAM_STAT_CHECK_CONDITION and qc->scsidone() callback is called
>>>   directly.  As we haven't filled sense data,
>>>   scsi_determine_disposition() will return FAILED and SCSI EH will
>>>   be scheduled.  Note that as we directly call qc->scsidone(), qc is
>>>   left intact.
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>Could we get the sense data before calling qc->scsidone()?  (Using the 
>>proposed separate
>>EH qc can keep the original qc intact.)
>>
>>The issue:
>>When a DVD drive returns MEDIUM_ERROR in the sense data, libata doesn't 
>>retry the command.
>>
>>For libata, when scsi_softirq() calls scsi_decide_disposition() and 
>>scsi_check_sense() to determine
>>how to handle the result, scsi_check_sense() always returns "fail" since 
>>the sense data is not there
>>yet. The sense data is requested later in the libata error handler. But 
>>the command has already been
>>considered as an "error".
>>
>>By having the sense data ready before calling qc->scsidone(), we can 
>>make the
>>NEEDS_RETRY work in scsi_softirq().  So, for things like MEDIUM_ERROR, 
>>the device has
>>a chance to retry/recover the error. This seems to be important for 
>>devices with built-in
>>defect management system.
> 
> 
>   There are two ways a scmd can leave EH - retry by scsi_queue_insert() 
> and finish by scsi_finish_cmd().  I think the problem you described can 
> be easily solved by choosing the former method when finishing the qc 
> from EH.  Note that other advanced EH stuff like reconfiguring transport 
> speed also requires retrying, so we will surely have a mechanism for 
> retrying failed qc's from EH.

What is needed is autosense simulation for ATA, so that SCSI Core doesn't
know that the device doesn't support autosense.

So, before a failed command reaches SCSI Core recovery, it should pass by
ATA layer recovery to get sense.

Note: if you send another command for execution after the failed command
_and_ no autosense is provided, then any sense data is lost -- this is further
subject to more rules set forth in SAM and SPC.

	Luben


  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-30 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-29  6:11 [RFC] libata new EH document Tejun Heo
2005-08-29  6:13 ` Tejun Heo
2005-08-30  9:10 ` Albert Lee
2005-08-30 10:26   ` Tejun Heo
2005-08-30 14:32     ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2005-09-01  1:17       ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-01  2:22         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01  2:42           ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-01  3:33           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  3:30         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  3:44           ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-01  4:38             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  5:44               ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-01  5:54                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 13:24                   ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 21:40                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 21:46                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 22:09                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 22:27                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 23:17                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-02  7:09                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-01 22:22                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 22:31                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 21:55                       ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 22:07                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 22:23                           ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 22:36                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 23:01                               ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 23:03                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 23:27                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  2:22     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-30 14:27   ` James Bottomley
2005-09-07  8:25 ` Jeff Garzik

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