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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: Albert Lee <albertcc@tw.ibm.com>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Doug Maxey <dwm@maxeymade.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] libata new EH document
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 10:17:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4316569B.6080406@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43146DE7.1070501@adaptec.com>

Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 08/30/05 06:26, Tejun Heo wrote:
> 
>>Albert Lee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>4. Corresponding scmd's result code is set to
>>>>  SAM_STAT_CHECK_CONDITION and qc->scsidone() callback is called
>>>>  directly.  As we haven't filled sense data,
>>>>  scsi_determine_disposition() will return FAILED and SCSI EH will
>>>>  be scheduled.  Note that as we directly call qc->scsidone(), qc is
>>>>  left intact.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Could we get the sense data before calling qc->scsidone()?  (Using the 
>>>proposed separate
>>>EH qc can keep the original qc intact.)
>>>
>>>The issue:
>>>When a DVD drive returns MEDIUM_ERROR in the sense data, libata doesn't 
>>>retry the command.
>>>
>>>For libata, when scsi_softirq() calls scsi_decide_disposition() and 
>>>scsi_check_sense() to determine
>>>how to handle the result, scsi_check_sense() always returns "fail" since 
>>>the sense data is not there
>>>yet. The sense data is requested later in the libata error handler. But 
>>>the command has already been
>>>considered as an "error".
>>>
>>>By having the sense data ready before calling qc->scsidone(), we can 
>>>make the
>>>NEEDS_RETRY work in scsi_softirq().  So, for things like MEDIUM_ERROR, 
>>>the device has
>>>a chance to retry/recover the error. This seems to be important for 
>>>devices with built-in
>>>defect management system.
>>
>>
>>  There are two ways a scmd can leave EH - retry by scsi_queue_insert() 
>>and finish by scsi_finish_cmd().  I think the problem you described can 
>>be easily solved by choosing the former method when finishing the qc 
>>from EH.  Note that other advanced EH stuff like reconfiguring transport 
>>speed also requires retrying, so we will surely have a mechanism for 
>>retrying failed qc's from EH.
> 
> 
> What is needed is autosense simulation for ATA, so that SCSI Core doesn't
> know that the device doesn't support autosense.
> 
> So, before a failed command reaches SCSI Core recovery, it should pass by
> ATA layer recovery to get sense.
> 
> Note: if you send another command for execution after the failed command
> _and_ no autosense is provided, then any sense data is lost -- this is further
> subject to more rules set forth in SAM and SPC.
> 

  IMHO, it's a good idea to maintain one qc to one ATA/ATAPI command 
mapping as long as possible.  And, in the suggested framework, it's 
guaranteed that no other command can come inbetween CHECK_SENSE and 
REQUEST_SENSE.

  Requesting sense from EH, calling scsi_decide_disposition() on the 
sense and following the verdict should achieve the same effect as 
emulating autosense.  Is there any compelling reason to break one qc to 
one command mapping?

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-01  1:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-29  6:11 [RFC] libata new EH document Tejun Heo
2005-08-29  6:13 ` Tejun Heo
2005-08-30  9:10 ` Albert Lee
2005-08-30 10:26   ` Tejun Heo
2005-08-30 14:32     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  1:17       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2005-09-01  2:22         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01  2:42           ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-01  3:33           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  3:30         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  3:44           ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-01  4:38             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  5:44               ` Tejun Heo
2005-09-01  5:54                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 13:24                   ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 21:40                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 21:46                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 22:09                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 22:27                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 23:17                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-02  7:09                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-01 22:22                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 22:31                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-01 21:55                       ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 22:07                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 22:23                           ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 22:36                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 23:01                               ` James Bottomley
2005-09-01 23:03                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01 23:27                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-01  2:22     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-30 14:27   ` James Bottomley
2005-09-07  8:25 ` Jeff Garzik

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