From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
davej@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libata: fix broken Kconfig setup
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:21:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4353CF7E.1090404@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510170848180.23590@g5.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>CONFIG_SCSI_SATA does two things:
>>* Enables/disables the display of the SATA driver menu.
>>* Enables/disables the compiled-in PCI quirk.
>>
>>Both of these are boolean, and have absolutely nothing to do with modules.
>
>
> You ignore the biggest thing it does:
> - it is the depends-on for the actual low-level drivers
That dependency for each driver exists solely for menu display purposes.
There is no code dependency.
> IOW, the _biggest_ reason for it existing at all is in fact _not_ a
> boolean. It very much is a tristate. When it's "m" the SATA driver menu
> _should_ show.
The only operational difference between CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y and
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=m is that CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=m restricts the drivers from
being compiled in -- a silly and needless restriction.
The elimination of 'y' as an option should propagate from CONFIG_SCSI.
> Also, as already mentioned, that compiled-in PCI quirk is _wrong_. The
> fact that somebody asked for SCSI_SATA should not change Intel settings.
> Maybe somebody hass a separate SATA card, and has enabled support for
> _that_, but wants the on-board thing to work with legacy drivers? The way
> he'd have done that is to enable SCSI_SATA, but _not_ enable
> SCSI_ATA_PIIX.
Agreed this is a _theoretical_ problem.
Never heard of this being an issue in the real world, because the IDE
driver locks up on a lot of the Intel hardware in question. That was
one of the original reason for the split PATA/SATA driver configuration,
for this wonky combined mode.
> Btw, if you want to really hide things (and not just gray them out) I
> think you should do a
>
> menu "SATA low-level drivers"
> depends on SCSI_SATA != n
>
> ..
>
> endmenu
>
> around the SATA drivers.
No preference whether its hidden or greyed out.
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA is just a switch to enable listing a set of drivers,
just like CONFIG_NET_PCI (which I note is a bool), CONFIG_NET_ISA (a
bool), ...
>>Because it's fundamental a boolean, and has -zero- to do with modules.
>>Encouraging people to think otherwise will just lead to more confusion.
>
>
> I disagree. It is no more fundamentally boolean than anything else that
> controls modules. It's a tristate, because it chooses between the
> low-level drivers being tristate.
>
> I also think that the _only_ thing your ugly patch fixes was totally wrong
> for wholly other reasons anyway. If that quirk is needed, it really looks
> like it should be
>
> #if defined(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PIIX) || defined(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PIIX_MODULE)
> ..
> #endif
If IDE is compiled in, IDE SATA option is not enabled, and ata_piix or
ahci are used.
Do we really want to do
#if defined (CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC) &&
!defined(CONFIG_IDE_BLK_DEV_SATA) &&
(
defined(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PIIX) ||
defined(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PIIX_MODULE) ||
defined(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_AHCI ||
defined(CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_AHCI_MODULE)
)
?
At that point it seems easier to solve at the Kconfig level, perhaps
defining CONFIG_SATA_INTEL_COMBINED at the end. And then with the quirk
issue out of the way, CONFIG_SCSI_SATA becomes purely a boolean
enable/disable-this-menu switch.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-17 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-17 4:46 [PATCH] libata: fix broken Kconfig setup Jeff Garzik
2005-10-17 11:10 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-10-17 11:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-17 15:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 15:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-17 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 16:21 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-10-17 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 17:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-17 17:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 17:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-19 11:49 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-10-19 16:02 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-10-17 17:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-18 11:15 ` Sergey Vlasov
2005-10-18 20:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-17 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 17:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-17 16:52 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-10-17 17:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-17 17:06 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-10-17 17:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-20 14:14 ` Alan Cox
2005-10-20 16:45 ` Jesse Barnes
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