* PROBLEM: Tyan s2822 and SATA slowness / erratic speeds kernel 2.6
@ 2005-11-15 23:43 Jones Joneser
2005-11-16 4:57 ` Tejun Heo
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jones Joneser @ 2005-11-15 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-ide; +Cc: linux-scsi, linux-kernel
Machine:
Tyan s2822G3NR-D
Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114
SATA Drives: Western Digital 300gb / seagate 80 gb
Initially we thought we had a network issue because we were seeing a
slowdown when transferring files > 512Mb in size (by whatever method: rsync,
cp, scp, etc.) between two of the Tyan servers, we see the first 512Mb go at
a decent rate (tens of megabytes per second) and then the rate plummets to
below 500k/sec. However we reproduce the issue locally on a machine thus
eliminating the network card issue. We also had tried with different
ethernet cards and x-over cable.
We are using CentOS 4 and have tried both 4.1 and 4.2 (the latest edition)
64 and 32 bit. We have tried ubuntu, gentoo, and vanilla kernels. We have
upgraded our BIOS to the latest and experimented with different BIOS
settings (from 'safe' to 'optimal' with many variants in between.) We have
tried it with ACPI switched off, with 4gb of RAM and with 8gb of RAM. We
have upgraded the BIOS to 3.04 & then 3.05. The best we get is that under
the ubuntu, gentoo, and a 2.4 kernel we can see stable performance that is
well below what we should be getting ~20MiB/s.
No matter what combination of configuration we try, we consistently see this
issue. We have even tried and LSI SATA controller w/ Tyan motherboard and
experienced the same issues.
We moved the SATA controller to a Dell PE 1750 and experience none of the
slowdowns, consistent ly 45-50MiB/s performance with no erraticness in speed
or drops in performance.
We suspect the issue is related to the combo of the Tyan mobo with the SATA
controller subsystem but need some assistance in further nailing down the
cause and solution to this issue.
Let me know of any additional information that I can provide to assist with
the debugging of this issue.
Thanks,
-asher
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* Re: PROBLEM: Tyan s2822 and SATA slowness / erratic speeds kernel 2.6
2005-11-15 23:43 PROBLEM: Tyan s2822 and SATA slowness / erratic speeds kernel 2.6 Jones Joneser
@ 2005-11-16 4:57 ` Tejun Heo
2005-11-16 18:21 ` Jones Joneser
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Tejun Heo @ 2005-11-16 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jones Joneser; +Cc: linux-ide, linux-scsi, linux-kernel
Jones Joneser wrote:
> Machine:
> Tyan s2822G3NR-D
> Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114
> SATA Drives: Western Digital 300gb / seagate 80 gb
>
> Initially we thought we had a network issue because we were seeing a
> slowdown when transferring files > 512Mb in size (by whatever method:
> rsync, cp, scp, etc.) between two of the Tyan servers, we see the first
> 512Mb go at a decent rate (tens of megabytes per second) and then the
> rate plummets to below 500k/sec. However we reproduce the issue
> locally on a machine thus eliminating the network card issue. We also
> had tried with different ethernet cards and x-over cable.
>
>
> We are using CentOS 4 and have tried both 4.1 and 4.2 (the latest
> edition) 64 and 32 bit. We have tried ubuntu, gentoo, and vanilla
> kernels. We have upgraded our BIOS to the latest and experimented with
> different BIOS settings (from 'safe' to 'optimal' with many variants in
> between.) We have tried it with ACPI switched off, with 4gb of RAM and
> with 8gb of RAM. We have upgraded the BIOS to 3.04 & then 3.05. The
> best we get is that under the ubuntu, gentoo, and a 2.4 kernel we can
> see stable performance that is well below what we should be getting
> ~20MiB/s.
>
> No matter what combination of configuration we try, we consistently see
> this issue. We have even tried and LSI SATA controller w/ Tyan
> motherboard and experienced the same issues.
>
> We moved the SATA controller to a Dell PE 1750 and experience none of
> the slowdowns, consistent ly 45-50MiB/s performance with no erraticness
> in speed or drops in performance.
>
> We suspect the issue is related to the combo of the Tyan mobo with the
> SATA controller subsystem but need some assistance in further nailing
> down the cause and solution to this issue.
>
> Let me know of any additional information that I can provide to assist
> with the debugging of this issue.
>
> Thanks,
> -asher
>
i. posting boot message would help.
ii. Can you try vanilla 2.6.14 kernel? If it's sil m15w problem and
your card is 3114 but not 3112, the problem should disappear on 2.6.14.
--
tejun
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* Re: PROBLEM: Tyan s2822 and SATA slowness / erratic speeds kernel 2.6
2005-11-16 4:57 ` Tejun Heo
@ 2005-11-16 18:21 ` Jones Joneser
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jones Joneser @ 2005-11-16 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: htejun; +Cc: linux-ide, linux-scsi, linux-kernel
We experience the same issue when using an LSI SATA controller and the Tyan
motherboard. In addition we did try vanilla 2.6.14.2 and experienced the
same slowdown issues.
-asher
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wrote:<br>> > Machine:<br>> > Tyan s2822G3NR-D<br>> >
Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114<br>> > SATA Drives: Western Digital 300gb
/ seagate 80 gb<br>> ><br>> > Initially we thought we had a
network issue because we were seeing a<br>> > slowdown when
transferring files > 512Mb in size (by whatever method:<br>> >
rsync, cp, scp, etc.) between two of the Tyan servers, we see the
first<br>> > 512Mb go at a decent rate (tens of megabytes per second)
and then the<br>> > rate plummets to below 500k/sec. However we
reproduce the issue<br>> > locally on a machine thus eliminating the
network card issue. We also<br>> > had tried with different ethernet
cards and x-over cable.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > We are using
CentOS 4 and have tried both 4.1 and 4.2 (the latest<br>> > edition)
64 and 32 bit. We have tried ubuntu, gentoo, and vanilla<br>> >
kernels. We have upgraded our BIOS to the latest and experimented
with<br>> > different BIOS settings (from 'safe' to 'optimal' with
many variants in<br>> > between.) We have tried it with ACPI switched
off, with 4gb of RAM and<br>> > with 8gb of RAM. We have upgraded the
BIOS to 3.04 & then 3.05. The<br>> > best we get is that under
the ubuntu, gentoo, and a 2.4 kernel we can<br>> > see stable
performance that is well below what we should be getting<br>> >
~20MiB/s.<br>> ><br>> > No matter what combination of
configuration we try, we consistently see<br>> > this issue. We have
even tried and LSI SATA controller w/ Tyan<br>> > motherboard and
experienced the same issues.<br>> ><br>> > We moved the SATA
controller to a Dell PE 1750 and experience none of<br>> > the
slowdowns, consistent ly 45-50MiB/s performance with no erraticness<br>>
> in speed or drops in performance.<br>> ><br>> > We suspect
the issue is related to the combo of the Tyan mobo with the<br>> >
SATA controller subsystem but need some assistance in further
nailing<br>> > down the cause and solution to this issue.<br>>
><br>> > Let me know of any additional information that I can
provide to assist<br>> > with the debugging of this issue.<br>>
><br>> > Thanks,<br>> > -asher<br>> ><br>><br>>i.
posting boot message would help.<br>>ii. Can you try vanilla 2.6.14
kernel? If it's sil m15w problem and<br>>your card is 3114 but not 3112,
the problem should disappear on
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