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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
Cc: dougg@torque.net, brking@us.ibm.com,
	Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	t.schorpp@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] libata: Remove dependence on host_set->dev for SAS
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:05:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <438FABF8.3020802@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58cb370e0511240012r64ad150eo90553b230992424e@mail.gmail.com>

Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> On 11/24/05, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>>Douglas Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>>I don't think a SATL is that easy. One SCSI command can
>>>translate into zero or more ATA commands. If it translates
>>>to multiple commands, then there is the possibility of an
>>>error prior to the last in the sequence of ATA commands
>>>(how to report; rollback needed ?). The SATL needs to hold
>>>state and needs a service thread if it is to support the
>>>IMMED bit on some commands (e.g. START STOP UNIT).
>>
>>It needs a conceptual service thread, not necessarily an explicit one.
>>
>>With REQUEST SENSE, I've demonstrated how to report errors with each
>>step in the sequence.  With demo patches I've posted, I've demonstrated
>>(using qc->private_data) how to hold state.
>>
>>
>>
>>>libata still has a ways to go to catch up to SAT rev 7
>>>but has made some good progress lately with the addition
>>>of the ATA pass through commands (lk 2.6.15-rc1 and onward).
>>>smartmontools (just prior to 5.34) now works with '-d ata'
>>>on libata-connected SATA disks. The '-d ata' ** overrides
>>>the guess of a SCSI disk based on the device node (e.g.
>>>/dev/sda) and uses the HDIO_DRIVE_CMD and HDIO_DRIVE_TASK
>>>ioctls. The absence of support for the HDIO_DRIVE_TASKFILE
>>>ioctl means that "selective" self-test can't be done.
>>>I'm not sure if moving smartmontools to the ATA PASS THROUGH
>>>SCSI commands will win back the "selective" self-test
>>>capability. Anyway, going to those ATA PASS THROUGH SCSI
>>
>>ATA passthru can do anything the legacy IDE ioctls can do (and more).
> 
> 
> [ definitely ATA passthru is the way to go but... ]
> 
> discrete taskfiles?

what is this?


> multi-PIO?

what is this?  multi-sector PIO, such as READ MULTIPLE SECTORS?  ATA 
passthru can do that.


> setting transfer speed?

That's not a limitation of passthru, but a limitation of the driver.  I 
don't yet see the value...

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-02  2:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-03 21:56 [RFC 0/2] libata: support SATA devices on SAS HBAs Brian King
2005-10-03 21:58 ` [RFC 1/2] libata: configurable host_set lock Brian King
2005-10-03 21:58 ` [RFC 2/2] libata: support SATA devices on SAS HBAs Brian King
2005-10-04  9:56 ` [RFC 0/2] " Jeff Garzik
2005-10-04 10:22   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-10-04 20:56     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-10-05 20:59       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-24 22:17         ` [PATCH " Brian King
2005-10-24 22:19           ` [PATCH 1/2] libata: Remove dependence on host_set->dev for SAS Brian King
2005-10-25 17:53             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 19:30               ` Brian King
2005-10-25 19:43                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 22:48                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-27 16:05                     ` Brian King
2005-10-27 20:15                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-11-24  0:53                       ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-11-24  1:07                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-24  8:12                           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-12-02  2:05                             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-12-02  8:07                               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-12-02 10:28                                 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-12-02 10:48                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-29 22:13                         ` Brian King
2005-10-24 22:20           ` [PATCH 2/2] libata: Add support for SATA attachment to SAS adapters Brian King
2005-10-25 17:58             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 12:59           ` [PATCH 0/2] libata: support SATA devices on SAS HBAs Luben Tuikov
2005-10-25 13:39             ` Brian King
2005-10-25 13:40               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-25 13:53                 ` Brian King
2005-10-25 14:08                   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-25 14:27                     ` Brian King
2005-10-25 17:51                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 17:57         ` [RFC " Brian King
2005-10-25 18:07           ` Jeff Garzik

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