From: Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
brking@us.ibm.com, Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
t.schorpp@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] libata: Remove dependence on host_set->dev for SAS
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:28:48 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <439021E0.9040203@torque.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58cb370e0512020007n67f7ba30g7cae84c66b18859@mail.gmail.com>
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> On 12/2/05, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/24/05, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Douglas Gilbert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't think a SATL is that easy. One SCSI command can
>>>>>translate into zero or more ATA commands. If it translates
>>>>>to multiple commands, then there is the possibility of an
>>>>>error prior to the last in the sequence of ATA commands
>>>>>(how to report; rollback needed ?). The SATL needs to hold
>>>>>state and needs a service thread if it is to support the
>>>>>IMMED bit on some commands (e.g. START STOP UNIT).
>>>>
>>>>It needs a conceptual service thread, not necessarily an explicit one.
>>>>
>>>>With REQUEST SENSE, I've demonstrated how to report errors with each
>>>>step in the sequence. With demo patches I've posted, I've demonstrated
>>>>(using qc->private_data) how to hold state.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>libata still has a ways to go to catch up to SAT rev 7
>>>>>but has made some good progress lately with the addition
>>>>>of the ATA pass through commands (lk 2.6.15-rc1 and onward).
>>>>>smartmontools (just prior to 5.34) now works with '-d ata'
>>>>>on libata-connected SATA disks. The '-d ata' ** overrides
>>>>>the guess of a SCSI disk based on the device node (e.g.
>>>>>/dev/sda) and uses the HDIO_DRIVE_CMD and HDIO_DRIVE_TASK
>>>>>ioctls. The absence of support for the HDIO_DRIVE_TASKFILE
>>>>>ioctl means that "selective" self-test can't be done.
>>>>>I'm not sure if moving smartmontools to the ATA PASS THROUGH
>>>>>SCSI commands will win back the "selective" self-test
>>>>>capability. Anyway, going to those ATA PASS THROUGH SCSI
>>>>
>>>>ATA passthru can do anything the legacy IDE ioctls can do (and more).
>>>
>>>
>>>[ definitely ATA passthru is the way to go but... ]
>>>
>>>discrete taskfiles?
>>
>>what is this?
>
>
> flagged taskfiles
>
> yes, this is a low priority but your statement is oversimplification
> and I don't even mentioned other "IDE ioctl", so:
>
> ATA passthru can do anything _important_ that legacy IDE ioctls
> can do (write cache [dis,en]abling?)
>
>
>>>multi-PIO?
>>
>>what is this? multi-sector PIO, such as READ MULTIPLE SECTORS? ATA
>
>
> short for multi sector-sector PIO
>
>
>>passthru can do that.
>
>
> not in the mainline, I've just checked libata-dev and it is OK
>
>
>>>setting transfer speed?
>>
>>That's not a limitation of passthru, but a limitation of the driver. I
>>don't yet see the value...
>
>
> Same for me...
I noticed that the protocol field in the ATA_12 and
ATA_16 pass through commands included hard reset,
SRST and device reset. Would it be useful to implement
these?
Doug Gilbert
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-02 10:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-03 21:56 [RFC 0/2] libata: support SATA devices on SAS HBAs Brian King
2005-10-03 21:58 ` [RFC 1/2] libata: configurable host_set lock Brian King
2005-10-03 21:58 ` [RFC 2/2] libata: support SATA devices on SAS HBAs Brian King
2005-10-04 9:56 ` [RFC 0/2] " Jeff Garzik
2005-10-04 10:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-10-04 20:56 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-10-05 20:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-24 22:17 ` [PATCH " Brian King
2005-10-24 22:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] libata: Remove dependence on host_set->dev for SAS Brian King
2005-10-25 17:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 19:30 ` Brian King
2005-10-25 19:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 22:48 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-27 16:05 ` Brian King
2005-10-27 20:15 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-11-24 0:53 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-11-24 1:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-24 8:12 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-12-02 2:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-02 8:07 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-12-02 10:28 ` Douglas Gilbert [this message]
2005-12-02 10:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-29 22:13 ` Brian King
2005-10-24 22:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] libata: Add support for SATA attachment to SAS adapters Brian King
2005-10-25 17:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 12:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] libata: support SATA devices on SAS HBAs Luben Tuikov
2005-10-25 13:39 ` Brian King
2005-10-25 13:40 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-25 13:53 ` Brian King
2005-10-25 14:08 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-25 14:27 ` Brian King
2005-10-25 17:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-25 17:57 ` [RFC " Brian King
2005-10-25 18:07 ` Jeff Garzik
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