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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	randy_d_dunlap@linux.intel.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ACPI] Re: RFC: ACPI/scsi/libata integration and hotswap
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:14:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43983FC6.6050108@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1134050863.17102.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Alan Cox wrote:
> On Iau, 2005-12-08 at 08:52 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:39:45PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:33:08PM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Don't do it at all.  We don't need to fuck up every layer and driver for
>>>>intels braindamage.
>>>
>>>Doing SATA suspend/resume properly on x86 depends on knowing the ACPI 
>>>object that corresponds to a host or target.
>>
>>Not true.
> 
> 
> 
> Actually he is right. You have to know the ACPI object in order to run
> the _GTM/_STM etc functions. If you don't run those your suspend/resume

These are only for PATA.  We don't care about _GTM/_STM on SATA.

Further, SATA completely resets and re-initializes the device as if from 
a hardware reset (except on ata_piix, which doesn't support COMRESET, 
and PATA).  This makes _GTF uninteresting, as well.


> may not work, may corrupt and so on. The only safe alternative is to
> disable acpi which, while it would have been a good idea before the spec
> ever got out, is a bit late now.

suspend/resume works just fine with Jens' out-of-tree patch.


> If you don't run the resume methods your disk subsystem status after a
> resume is simply undefined and unsafe.

I initialize the hardware to a defined state.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-08 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-08  3:02 RFC: ACPI/scsi/libata integration and hotswap Matthew Garrett
2005-12-08  9:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-08 13:26   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-08 13:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-08 13:39       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-08 13:44         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-08 17:18           ` Erik Slagter
2005-12-08 20:43             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-08 21:03               ` Dominic Ijichi
2005-12-08 21:09                 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                   ` <4398A0F9.9050900-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-08 21:34                     ` Dominic Ijichi
2005-12-08 21:31               ` Randy Dunlap
2005-12-09  9:45                 ` Erik Slagter
2005-12-09 10:39                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-09 10:45                     ` Erik Slagter
2005-12-09 11:27                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-09 11:35                         ` Erik Slagter
2005-12-09 11:40                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-09 11:46                           ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-09 11:55                             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                               ` <20051209115511.GA25842-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-09 13:22                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-12-09 12:01                             ` Erik Slagter
     [not found]                               ` <1134129692.27633.58.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-09 12:07                                 ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-10  2:19                         ` Douglas Gilbert
     [not found]                           ` <439A3B15.5010608-c4O3jRSCrQ+sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-14 20:52                             ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]                       ` <1134125145.27633.32.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-09 11:30                         ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-09  3:28               ` Mark Lord
2005-12-09 11:29                 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                   ` <43996A84.5020307-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-10  4:01                     ` Mark Lord
2005-12-08 13:52         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-08 14:07           ` [ACPI] " Alan Cox
2005-12-08 14:14             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-12-08 14:30               ` Alan Cox
2005-12-08 14:43                 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-08 14:53                   ` Alan Cox
2005-12-09 11:42                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-08 14:12           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-08 14:01         ` Alan Cox
2005-12-08 14:18           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-08 14:33             ` Alan Cox
2005-12-08 14:52               ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-08 14:55                 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-08 17:19                 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-09 11:42                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20051209114246.GB16945-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-09 11:49                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-09 11:52                         ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                           ` <20051209115235.GB25771-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2005-12-09 11:58                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-09 12:11                               ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-09 12:16                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-09 12:24                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-10  0:40                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-10  2:34                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-10  2:39                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-10  2:47                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-10  2:41                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-10  2:50                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-10  2:57                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-10  3:47                                               ` [ACPI] " Andrew Grover
2005-12-12  0:38                                           ` Alan Cox
2005-12-09 11:50                     ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-09 11:55                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-13 18:14 ` Randy Dunlap
2005-12-13 18:26   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-13 19:07     ` Randy Dunlap

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