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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
Cc: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	James Steward <james.steward@dynamicratings.com>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ide: add dcache flushing after PIO
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:00:26 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A97C1A.1090503@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58cb370e0512210757n25ddd614p33f3d70c8ff813cd@mail.gmail.com>

Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> On 12/21/05, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Russell King wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 11:00:22PM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Block drivers are responsible for cache coherency before and after IO.
>>>> When using DMA, DMA API takes care of it but drivers should do manual
>>>> flushing with PIO.
>>>
>>> Are you sure you need the ones in the write path?  No other driver
>>> seems to do this.
>>>
>> Unfortunately, I'm not.  I was trying to be on the safe side.
>>
>> Are the page caches guaranteed to have no dirty alias on entry to block
>> layer for write?  I can see that aliases are handled for read(2)s and
>> write(2)s but I don't know much about mmap writebacks.
>>
>> Another question is whether or not it's guaranteed that there's no
>> user-mapped dirty cachelines on entry to block layer for read.  DMA API
> 
> It seems to be guaranteed for read() and write() but not for mmap().
> 
>> clears all cpu caches before IO and, as DMA IO doesn't touch any cpu
>> caches, it doesn't do anything after IO.  The previous patch adds a
>> flush_dcache_page after IO which makes sure that the kernel cache line
>> is gone, but it doesn't do anything to make sure that there's no dirty
>> user-mapped cachelines hanging around before IO.
>>
>> I couldn't find an exemplary driver doing this kind of things with page
>> caches.  Most other flush_dcache_page usages I looked at didn't deal
>> with user mapped page caches.
> 
> After reading excellent explanation by rmk I think that it should be
> fixed at VM layer (filemap_nopage() perhaps).
> 
> Could you move the discussion to LKML (with some generic "subject")
> so we can get some help from MM hackers?
> 
> Bartlomiej

Hi, Bartlomiej.

I'll post a new message to LKML first thing tomorrow.  :-)

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-21 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-19  0:47 Execute from CF causes segmentation faults James Steward
2005-12-20 12:52 ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-20 16:23   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-12-21  9:48     ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-21 14:00       ` [PATCH] ide: add dcache flushing after PIO Tejun Heo
2005-12-21 14:03         ` Russell King
2005-12-21 14:43           ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-21 15:57             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-12-21 16:00               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2005-12-21 17:54               ` Russell King
2006-01-07 17:06                 ` Russell King
2006-01-07 20:17                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-07 21:22                     ` Russell King
2006-01-07 22:41                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-08  0:50                         ` james
2006-01-09  9:08                         ` Russell King
2006-01-09  9:16                           ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-21 15:01     ` Execute from CF causes segmentation faults Russell King

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