From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: albertcc@tw.ibm.com, liml@rtr.ca, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCHSET] libata: new reset mechanism
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:20:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43DC50B4.6040902@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43A64D42.2080700@gmail.com>
Tejun Heo wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Hard and soft reset should be implemented as
>>
>> qc = ata_qc_new_init()
>> qc->tf.protocol = ATA_PROT_HARD_RESET;
>> ... ata_qc_issue() ...
>>
>> which automatically takes advantage of the ability to specify a
>> behavior using the qc_prep/qc_issue driver hooks. The ATA passthru
>> CDB supports this method of programming (hard and soft reset are
>> specified protocols), and this is very similar to how the SiI 3124
>> behaves. Other FIS-based controllers will implement qc_issue/qc_prep
>> such that they send two Control FIS's. Taskfile-based controllers use
>> the currently implemented method.
>
>
> I don't really agree with you. IMHO, resets are too different from
> standard qc execution (ie. standard ATA command execution) to be a qc
> protocol. Also, how are we gonna represent host reset with qc? I like
> the "everything via qc" idea but I think making resets protocols of qc
> is pushing too far. Please consider...
>
> * If we go with qc_prep/issue, we don't have context while executing
> resets. Even though SATA is pretty much event-driven, many controllers
> still need quite some amount of polling during resets. Even though a
> controller can be reset using interrupts/events, the code will be much
> more complex. I think it's MUCH better to perform resets with context.
>
> * If we perform resets with context, we can use ata_exec_internal()
> while performing resets. If a controller can perform resets by issuing
> qc's or wants to do some post-reset configuration commands, it can do so
> by simply invoking ata_exec_internal(). If resets become qc protocols,
> we'll need to dance _really_ hard to do anything similar. Please
> consider the state of IDE driver regarding resets / reconfiguration.
>
> * Resets must be followed by a series of configuration commands. i.e.
> we need context after performing reset anyway. So, the context needs to
> be there whether or not resets are performed with contexts.
That's fine, we can do without it for now. I definitely want to see
that portion of the ATA passthru SCSI command supported. The spec lists
soft and hard reset among the protocols. You could just hard-code a
call to the libata reset machinery for those two protocols. Handle it
in the simulator.
Jeff
prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-29 5:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-18 13:33 [RFC/PATCHSET] libata: new reset mechanism Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:36 ` [PATCH 01/14] libata: modify ata_dev_try_classify Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:38 ` [PATCH 02/14] libata: implement new reset mechanism Tejun Heo
2005-12-19 5:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-19 6:33 ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:40 ` [PATCH 03/14] libata: implement standard reset methods Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:41 ` [PATCH 04/14] libata: export ata_busy_sleep() Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:42 ` [PATCH 05/14] sata_sil: convert to new reset mechanism Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:43 ` [PATCH 06/14] sata_sil24: " Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:44 ` [PATCH 07/14] sata_sil24: add hardreset Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:46 ` [PATCH 08/14] ata_piix: convert pata to new reset mechanism Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:47 ` [PATCH 09/14] ata_piix: convert sata " Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:48 ` [PATCH 10/14] ahci: separate out ahci_stop/start_engine() Tejun Heo
2005-12-19 5:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-19 6:05 ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:49 ` [PATCH 11/14] ahci: convert to new reset mechanism Tejun Heo
2005-12-19 5:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-19 6:07 ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-18 13:50 ` [PATCH 12/14] ahci: separate out ahci_cmd_prep() Tejun Heo
2005-12-19 5:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-18 13:51 ` [PATCH 13/14] ahci: add constants for SRST Tejun Heo
2005-12-19 5:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-18 13:51 ` [PATCH 14/14] ahci: add softreset Tejun Heo
2005-12-19 5:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-19 6:12 ` Tejun Heo
2005-12-19 6:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-19 7:13 ` Tejun Heo
2006-01-29 5:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-12-19 5:20 ` [RFC/PATCHSET] libata: new reset mechanism Jeff Garzik
2005-12-19 6:03 ` Tejun Heo
2006-01-29 5:20 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
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