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From: Tejun <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Albert Lee <albertcc@tw.ibm.com>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Doug Maxey <dwm@maxeymade.com>, Brian King <brking@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: irq-pio branch updated with Tejun's patches
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:31:54 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EB0C0A.5070408@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43EB0999.9060204@pobox.com>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Albert.
>>
>> Albert Lee wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> This is sort of OT, but would it be possible to separate PIO
>>>> issuing/interrupt handling from ata_qc_issue_prot and ata_host_intr?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't overriding the ->qc_issue() and ->irq_handle() in LLDD good 
>>> enough?
>>
>>
>>
>> The driver needs its own ->qc_issue() and ->irq_handler() but it also 
>> needs PIO support.  AFAICS, the current PIO implementation is rather 
>> strongly tied into ata_qc_issue_prot() and ata_host_intr() making it 
>> difficult to use PIO support in drivers which use private ->qc_issue() 
>> and ->irq_handler().  So, what I was asking was to separate out PIO 
>> handling from ata_qc_issue_prot() and ata_host_intr() such that other 
>> issue and intr routines can use PIO.
> 
> 
> What needs this separation?  initio?
> 

Yeah, it seems.  Its broken driver currently emulates BMDMA status to 
work with standard issue/intr functions, but it seems fragile.  In 
addition, for NCQ commands, the controller operates in different mode 
and the code will have to be distorted more than now.  So, I think it's 
better to use separate issue/intr handler and calling PIO helpers when 
needed.  Well, if that driver ever works, that is.  I'll contact Initio 
support again.  Hmmm.. I might even call them.  Heh heh. :-)

> 
>> Separating out traditional driving logic from libata-core.c would 
>> require another level of indirection such that traditional low level 
>> drivers still can mix & match different legacy operations.  I thought 
>> about it and wasn't really sure whether the added abstraction was 
>> worth the clean up.  We currently don't have too many controllers 
>> which are legacy-free, it seems.
> 
> IMO the solution is time.  Time and evolution will determine what's 
> best.  When a particular section of code get particularly large (PCI IDE 
> driver helper code), it certainly makes sense to split it out.  "Do what 
> you must, and no more" is the Linux maxim :)

Being a stupid over-designer, I'm sometimes a bit unconformtable with 
the approach but I guess I'll finally adapt.  I'll talk about this more 
in the thread regarding probe_reset component operatons.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-09  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-27 14:23 irq-pio branch updated with Tejun's patches Jeff Garzik
2006-02-08  8:25 ` Albert Lee
2006-02-08  8:34   ` [PATCH 0/4] libata-dev: minor fix for irq-pio with Tejun's EH patches Albert Lee
2006-02-08  8:37     ` [PATCH 1/4] libata-dev: Fix array index value in ata_rwcmd_protocol() Albert Lee
2006-02-09  9:26       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-08  8:48     ` [PATCH 2/4] libata-dev: Use new ata_queue_pio_task() for PIO polling task Albert Lee
2006-02-08  8:50     ` [PATCH 3/4] libata-dev: Use new AC_ERR_* flags Albert Lee
2006-02-08  8:51     ` [PATCH 4/4] libata-dev: Minor comment fix Albert Lee
2006-02-08  8:46   ` irq-pio branch updated with Tejun's patches Tejun Heo
2006-02-09  3:23     ` Albert Lee
2006-02-09  3:58       ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-09  9:21         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-09  9:31           ` Tejun [this message]
2006-02-09  9:17       ` Jeff Garzik

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