From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: libata+SGIO: is .dma_boundary respected?
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:29:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4420541E.3070303@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <442051A0.1050200@rtr.ca>
Mark Lord wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
> ..
>
>> Seems to me that your reasoning is correct. It's a fact that the
>> original block mapped sg lists satisfies all requirements of the device
>> driver and/or hardware, otherwise would be a bug. The iommu may go nuts
>> of course, but logically that new sg list should be choppable into the
>> same requirements.
>
>
> I just finished going through all of the arch implementations and,
> as near as I can tell, they only ever *merge* sg list items,
> and never create additional sg entries.
>
> So low-level drivers (at present) can safely report their real limits,
> and then in their fill_sg() routines they can run around and split up
> any IOMMU merges that their hardware cannot tolerate.
I remain highly skeptical, and would be interested to see James and Ben
weight in on the subject, as they were the key iommu vmerge people
around the time libata ata_fill_sg() was originally written (and fixed
by BenH).
>> It would be much nicer if the iommu actually had some more knowledge,
>> ideally the same requirements that the block layer is faced with. No
>> driver should have to check the mapped sg list.
> Yup. Absolutely. So long as they continue to never *add* new sg entries
> (only doing merges instead), then I believe they just need to know the
> device's .dma_boundary parameter. We could pass this to them as an extra
> parameters, or perhaps embed it into the sg_list data structure somehow.
>
> In the case of sata_mv on the Marvell 6081 (which I'm looking at this week)
> it's hardware limit is actually 0xffffffff rather than 0xffff.
If the limit is not 0xffff, then there's no need for any of this
limitation junk. No s/g entry splitting after pci_map_sg(), no
artificial sg_tablesize limitation, etc.
> I wonder how well Linux drivers in general deal with that on a 64-bit
> machine?
Works just fine.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-21 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-19 20:48 libata+SGIO: is .dma_boundary respected? Mark Lord
2006-03-19 21:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-19 21:19 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-19 21:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-19 21:45 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-19 21:54 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 1:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-21 4:43 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 6:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-21 13:59 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 18:42 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-21 19:18 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 19:29 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-03-21 19:31 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 19:33 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 19:35 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-21 19:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-21 19:42 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-21 19:43 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-21 19:46 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-21 20:44 ` James Bottomley
2006-03-21 21:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-03-21 19:31 ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-21 19:36 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 19:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-21 20:51 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-22 11:25 ` Tejun Heo
2006-03-22 14:52 ` Mark Lord
2006-03-21 1:15 ` Jeff Garzik
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