From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: ltuikov@yahoo.com
Cc: Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
hch@lst.de, James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, albertcc@tw.ibm.com,
arjan@infradead.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] SCSI: implement scsi_eh_schedule_cmd()
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:02:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <443F8F41.1060002@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060414084914.63147.qmail@web31812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Hello, Luben.
Luben Tuikov wrote:
[--snip--]
>> note is that libata might not have sdev to call that function with when
>> it wants to invoke EH for hotplug.
>
> Let's separate the domains. You are doing a good thing in separating
> your SATA code into a "layer", and then you have LLDD which actually drive
> the HW by which you access the interconnect. (Sounds familiar? ;-) )
>
> Now enter SCSI (as in SAM). How can you tell SCSI "do eh for me, but
> neither a device nor command has failed and I cannot give you either one of them"
> as you're saying you'd like to do above? See? It is a protocol thing! That is,
> you want to handle such things in your layer.
>
> But since the device abstraction and the command abstraction is _shared_ with
> SCSI Core, you have to call "scsi_req_abort_cmd()" and "scsi_req_dev_reset()"
> in order to request SCSI Core to call you back with that type of request when
> it feels that is is comfortable in calling you to abort the task or
> reset the device.
So, what's your suggestion here? Do you think libata should do such
things with its own mechanism?
>>>> Also, your routine calls more specific eh routines and you should try
>>>> to be more general.
>> Please, elaborate.
>
> "scsi_times_out()"
>
>> I think it's good have some infrastructure in SCSI. e.g. libata can do
>> everything itself but it's just nice to have SCSI EH infrastructure to
>> build upon (EH thread, scmd draining & plugging...).
>
> You have to admit, SCSI is a lot more than SATA. For this reason,
> deriving an abstraction from your SATA code that would work for SCSI
> isn't an easy feat.
>
> For example, why do you absolutely have to do anything in your eh_timed_out()
> callback? Just atomicly mark your task abstraction as "aborting/aborted" and
> return EH_NOT_HANDLED so that you can get called back in your eh_strategy with
> a list of commands that need error recovery (ER, from now on). This is _all_ that
> you're going to do in your eh_timed_out() callback.
>
> By also having everything go through eh_timed_out() you can inspect at that instant
> if the command has completed and if not, mark it as aborted/aborting, else it has
> completed, give it to SCSI Core to complete it for you.
>
> When your ER strategy gets called with a list of commands to be recovered,
> it is not necessarily the case that they ended up there because all of them timed
> out. But one thing is for sure, they are all marked aborted/aborting and they
> all went through eh_timed_out() and were not done at that time.
>
> Maybe some of them completed ok, and you'd want to "return" them, but cannot since
> they were marked "aborted/aborting"... it is this dis-syncrhonization or late-completion,
> which you can achieve.
>
> Also consider that the "device failed" you can get from any of the commands on the
> er list when your er strategy gets called. Pick the first command, take a look at the
> device, device dead, search the rest of the list for any commands also going to that
> device and "recover" them and the device, then go to the next command.
>
> Consider, the SATA layer's task/device abstraction is shared with the LLDD and this
> is why you want to use things like eh_timed_out(). For commands and devices it is
> most likely the LLDD which will call them and you would want to get notified
> somehow of this (via the eh_timed_out()).
>
> Also you want ER to always flow in the same direction from the same starting point
> going to the same ending point.
>
> This is the reason to have scsi_req_abort_cmd() and scsi_req_device_reset(), callable
> from anywhere by anyone.
Point taken about scsi_req_abort_cmd(). scsi_req_abort_cmd() it is,
then. To proceed from here....
* sort out things about scsi_eh_schedule_port()/scsi_req_dev_reset()
* re-post patch for scsi_req_abort_cmd() and push it through either
scsi-misc or libata-dev. Luben, can you please re-post the patch?
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-14 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-01 10:38 [PATCH] SCSI: implement scsi_eh_schedule() Tejun Heo
2006-04-01 20:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-02 1:15 ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-02 16:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] SCSI: implement scsi_eh_schedule_cmd() Tejun Heo
2006-04-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] SCSI: implement scsi_eh_schedule_host() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 17:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-02 23:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] SCSI: implement scsi_eh_schedule_cmd() Luben Tuikov
2006-04-03 1:24 ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 17:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-11 21:28 ` Patrick Mansfield
2006-04-12 2:21 ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-12 8:24 ` Luben Tuikov
2006-04-12 16:18 ` Patrick Mansfield
2006-04-13 5:32 ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-14 8:49 ` Luben Tuikov
2006-04-14 12:02 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2006-04-19 18:49 ` Luben Tuikov
2006-04-20 2:07 ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-20 13:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-21 2:22 ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-20 19:23 ` Luben Tuikov
2006-04-21 2:39 ` Tejun Heo
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