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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, axboe@suse.de, albertcc@tw.ibm.com,
	lkosewsk@gmail.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling via timeout
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 07:33:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4450AC03.303@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <443DC751.8090209@gmail.com>

Tejun Heo wrote:
> Here is another method to deal with it as adding ->timeout_autopsy or 
> anything similar is too unattractive.  A new interface, say, 
> ata_eh_thaw_port() can be implemented which thaws the port without 
> resetting it.  Then, in BMDMA autopsy, after determining that a timeout 
> was caused by DMA error, it can thaw the port and adjust qc->err_mask to 
> AC_ERR_HOST_BUS.  How does it sound to you?

Seems rational.


>> Get the user back up and talking to their disk as fast as possible.
> 
> Command timeout is 30 secs (which, I think is a bit too long for ATA 
> disk devices).  If resetting succeeds, it takes less than two seconds. I 
> don't think it will make any difference to the user.

Well overall I want to minimize the change from existing behavior, since 
there is enough change as it is.  In current libata and drivers/ide, it 
can continue after a properly indicated DMA error without doing a reset.

And I just think its rude, to reset hardware when it doesn't need 
resetting.  Its sorta like the Windows mentality -- "just reboot it, 
that will fix stuff"  Linux shouldn't be rude to hardware, when it need 
not be :)

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-27 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-11 13:42 [PATCHSET 5/9] new EH framework, take 2 Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 02/16] libata-eh-fw: add new EH operations Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 01/16] libata-eh-fw: add flags for new EH Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 12/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling from PIO Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 09/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling via error completion Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 08/16] libata-eh-fw: update ata_qc_from_tag() to enforce normal/EH qc ownership Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 11/16] libata-eh-fw: implement new EH scheduling via timeout Tejun Heo
2006-04-12 22:36   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-13  2:40     ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-13  3:18       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-13  3:36         ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-27 11:33           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-04-29 21:13             ` Alan Cox
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 05/16] libata-eh-fw: clear SError in ata_std_postreset() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 06/16] libata-eh-fw: use special reserved tag and qc for internal commands Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 07/16] libata-eh-fw: implement ata_port_freeze() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 03/16] libata-eh-fw: hold host_set lock while finishing internal qc Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 04/16] libata-eh-fw: clear IRQ in ata_std_postreset() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 10/16] libata-eh-fw: implement ata_eh_schedule_port() Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 16/16] libata-eh-fw: update ata_interrupt() to handle frozen port properly Tejun Heo
2006-04-12 22:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-04-13  2:59     ` Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 13/16] libata-eh-fw: activate ->error_handler Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 15/16] libata-eh-fw: update SCSI command completion path for new EH Tejun Heo
2006-04-11 13:42 ` [PATCH 14/16] libata-eh-fw: activate ->post_internal_cmd Tejun Heo
2006-04-12 22:41 ` [PATCHSET 5/9] new EH framework, take 2 Jeff Garzik

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