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From: Albert Lee <albertcc@tw.ibm.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: albertl@mail.com, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Doug Maxey <dwm@maxeymade.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] libata: use polling pio for identify device
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:27:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4472730C.3090800@tw.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44715907.7060602@pobox.com>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Albert Lee wrote:
> 
>> Use polling pio for identify device.
>> This can save some time to detect the phantom device 1 during boot.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Albert Lee <albertcc@tw.ibm.com>
>> ---
>> For the phantom slave device (found with some IBM DVD-RAM drive and
>> Intel ICHx chip), irq-pio has to wait 30 seconds timeout to detect them.
>>
>> Use polling pio can detect the phantom slave quicker. (Verified ok by
>> Tejun.)
>>
>> Patch again the current upstream branch
>> (b74ba22f030eb7ab88f7d8954ad18ecc0ac5ce3c).
>> For your review, thanks.
>>
>> --- upstream/drivers/scsi/libata-core.c    2006-05-22
>> 10:04:12.000000000 +0800
>> +++ polling_identify/drivers/scsi/libata-core.c    2006-05-22
>> 11:07:02.000000000 +0800
>> @@ -1196,6 +1196,8 @@ static int ata_dev_read_id(struct ata_de
>>      }
>>  
>>      tf.protocol = ATA_PROT_PIO;
>> +    /* Use polling for early detection of phantom dev 1 */
>> +    tf.flags |= ATA_TFLAG_POLLING;
> 
> 
> Sorry I didn't jump into the thread earlier.  I'm trying out this new
> no-work-on-weekends thing, which is a change from my usual
> working-7-days-a-week thing.  :)
> 
> NAK.  The above change is going backwards from the direction we took by
> merging irq-pio, and it reintroduces problems that irq-pio solved.
> Additionally, for irq problems unrelated to libata (we will continue to
> see such problems FOREVER), this simply shifts the I-notice-a-problem
> moment from IDENTIFY DEVICE to SET FEATURES, or perhaps the first READ
> or WRITE.

Currently if the device fails to IDENTIFY DEVICE, new EH will retry
for 3 times and offline it. So, the faulty/phantom device won't
cause trouble to SET FEATURES and normal operation of libata.

(The impact is, 90 seconds boot time for irq-pio and 15 seconds
boot time for polling-pio to IDENTIFY DEVICE and EH recovery.)

> 
> SATA is inherently event driven (read: irq-driven), and PATA has
> traditionally been irq-driven in the Linux drivers/ide code.  Using
> polling for solving this specific problem just isn't enough
> justification.  We should be able to fix this elsewhere.  Take a look at
> the drivers/ide "bang at the door w/ IDENTIFY" probing method.  We took
> a different approach (device signature, etc.) but its still a useful
> working case to examine.

Agree. We need better way to identify the phantom slave.
Will check if any clue we can use, before banging the door by IDENTIFY.

--
albert

> 
> As an aside, phantom devices make me think that somewhere we might be
> getting device-select wrong, or accidentally skipping it entirely.
> 
>     Jeff
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-23  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-15 17:00 [RFT] major libata update Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 17:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:06   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 19:06     ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2006-05-15 20:45       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 19:33     ` Mark Lord
2006-05-15 22:52       ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-15 18:15   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 18:27     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:44       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 18:37     ` Alan Cox
2006-05-15 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2006-05-15 17:13   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 18:29 ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-05-15 18:43   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 23:32     ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-15 23:49       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16  0:04         ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-16  2:15           ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-15 19:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 23:02 ` Wakko Warner
2006-05-15 23:00   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 23:13     ` Wakko Warner
2006-05-15 23:19       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 23:40     ` Alan Cox
2006-05-15 23:50       ` Wakko Warner
2006-05-15 23:38   ` Alan Cox
2006-05-15 23:47     ` Wakko Warner
2006-05-15 23:45       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-15 23:30 ` Avuton Olrich
2006-05-15 23:36   ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-15 23:54   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16  0:08     ` Avuton Olrich
2006-05-16  3:36     ` Avuton Olrich
2006-05-16  3:51       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16  4:33         ` Avuton Olrich
2006-05-16 14:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-17 15:25             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2006-05-17 23:40               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-17 23:48                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-18  1:48                   ` Alan Cox
2006-05-17 23:49                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-16 15:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16  3:55       ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-16  4:37         ` Avuton Olrich
2006-05-16 11:36 ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-16 14:25   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16 15:24     ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-16 18:29       ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-16 21:41         ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-16 22:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16 23:11             ` Eric D. Mudama
2006-05-17  2:13               ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-16 23:23             ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  2:09               ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-16 23:44         ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-16 23:53           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17  0:00             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17  0:29               ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  1:08                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17  1:27                   ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  2:26                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17  3:05                       ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-22  7:19                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-23 13:59                       ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  0:31               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17  0:50                 ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  0:57                   ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  2:22                     ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-17  1:37                       ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  3:57                         ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-17  4:44                           ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17 11:30                             ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-17 20:45                             ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-17 21:01                             ` Mark Lord
2006-05-17 21:04                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17 21:50                                 ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17 21:56                                   ` Mark Lord
2006-05-17 22:00                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17 22:03                                       ` Mark Lord
2006-05-17 22:13                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-18  3:33                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-18  3:26                                       ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-18 11:58                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-18 12:52                                           ` Mark Lord
2006-05-18 13:22                                             ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-18 13:37                                               ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-17  1:13                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17  1:14                   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-17  2:16           ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-16 23:34       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16 23:53         ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  2:05 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-17  4:49   ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  4:56     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-17  5:14       ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-17  6:35         ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-18 11:24           ` Albert Lee
2006-05-18 11:33             ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-19 10:37               ` Albert Lee
2006-05-19 11:03                 ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-22  3:51                   ` [PATCH 1/1] libata: use polling pio for identify device Albert Lee
2006-05-22  6:24                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-23  2:27                       ` Albert Lee [this message]
2006-05-18 23:07           ` [RFT] major libata update Andrew Morton
2006-05-19  1:14             ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-19  2:06               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-19  2:16                 ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-22  7:22           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-21 23:51 ` Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
2006-05-22  2:42   ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-22  3:42     ` Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
2006-05-22  6:23     ` Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-

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