From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: "zhao, forrest" <forrest.zhao@intel.com>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] AHCI Command Completion Coalescing(CCC) proposal
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:52:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4488F063.1020803@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4488EE69.7050907@gmail.com>
Tejun Heo wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>> I'm still not sure I follow you?
>>
>> When AHCI runs out of commands to execute, it transitions from H:Idle
>> to Ccc:SetIS.
>>
>> IMPORTANT NOTE: In order for CCC to be effective on AHCI, ahci.c and
>> libata (and sata_sil24) must be updated to support queuing a list of
>> non-NCQ commands onto the controller, and recovering from errors in
>> the case where a command list full of non-NCQ commands is present.
>
> I thought about it but am not really sure whether it's worth the
> trouble. We'll be saving on inter-command latency and interrupt
> handling which is great but not so sure how noticeable the improvement
> would be. NCQ is already all around. How about doing CCC only during
> NCQ command phase?
Agreed with all these observations.
In general, the non-NCQ case shares characteristics with host-queue
controllers like sx8. The benefit is nowhere near true command queueing
like NCQ, but the benefits (which you list) are real.
Think of this as a long term requirement. libata _should_ eventually
support this, simply because the gains are there to be had. Several
SATA controllers support queueing of non-NCQ commands.
In the short term, only turning on CCC for NCQ ports makes a lot of sense.
> Hmmm... maybe those SSDs would benefit from CCC during non-NCQ commands
> though if they don't support NCQ, which they don't really need.
My Gigabyte i-Ram reliably corrupts data within seconds, regardless of
SATA controller :/
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-09 3:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-08 7:30 [RFC] AHCI Command Completion Coalescing(CCC) proposal zhao, forrest
2006-06-08 15:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-09 2:27 ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-09 3:11 ` Another project for you... :) Jeff Garzik
2006-06-09 3:13 ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-09 22:29 ` Greg Freemyer
2006-06-09 23:44 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-09 3:43 ` [RFC] ATA host-protected area (HPA) device mapper? Jeff Garzik
2006-06-09 4:51 ` Matthew Frost
2006-06-14 8:01 ` Another project for you... :) zhao, forrest
2006-06-14 15:19 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-15 7:59 ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-15 11:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-09 3:30 ` [RFC] AHCI Command Completion Coalescing(CCC) proposal Jeff Garzik
2006-06-09 3:39 ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-09 3:43 ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-09 3:47 ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-09 3:51 ` zhao, forrest
2006-06-09 4:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-09 5:24 ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-09 11:49 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-09 3:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-09 3:52 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-06-09 11:49 ` Jens Axboe
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