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* Re: More ATA corner cases
  2006-08-16 12:39 More ATA corner cases Alan Cox
@ 2006-08-16 12:27 ` Erik Mouw
  2006-08-16 22:50 ` Mark Lord
  2006-08-16 22:55 ` Jeff Garzik
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Erik Mouw @ 2006-08-16 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: jgarzik, linux-ide

On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 01:39:22PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> Any objection to me adding a new cable type for "40 wire ATA66 capable"
> to indicate the laptop vendor has been sneaky and we should do full UDMA
> ranges regardless of drive or other controller reporting.

Makes sense, lots of laptops do this.


Erik

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* More ATA corner cases
@ 2006-08-16 12:39 Alan Cox
  2006-08-16 12:27 ` Erik Mouw
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2006-08-16 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jgarzik, linux-ide

Any objection to me adding a new cable type for "40 wire ATA66 capable"
to indicate the laptop vendor has been sneaky and we should do full UDMA
ranges regardless of drive or other controller reporting.

Alan


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* Re: More ATA corner cases
  2006-08-16 12:39 More ATA corner cases Alan Cox
  2006-08-16 12:27 ` Erik Mouw
@ 2006-08-16 22:50 ` Mark Lord
  2006-08-17  0:38   ` Alan Cox
  2006-08-16 22:55 ` Jeff Garzik
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mark Lord @ 2006-08-16 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: jgarzik, linux-ide

Alan Cox wrote:
> Any objection to me adding a new cable type for "40 wire ATA66 capable"
> to indicate the laptop vendor has been sneaky and we should do full UDMA
> ranges regardless of drive or other controller reporting.

Good.  I'll need that feature for a little mini-ITX box here as well.
It uses a *really short* 40W cable for UDMA4 operation.

Cheers 

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* Re: More ATA corner cases
  2006-08-16 12:39 More ATA corner cases Alan Cox
  2006-08-16 12:27 ` Erik Mouw
  2006-08-16 22:50 ` Mark Lord
@ 2006-08-16 22:55 ` Jeff Garzik
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Garzik @ 2006-08-16 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: linux-ide

Alan Cox wrote:
> Any objection to me adding a new cable type for "40 wire ATA66 capable"
> to indicate the laptop vendor has been sneaky and we should do full UDMA
> ranges regardless of drive or other controller reporting.

No initial objections, but of course need to see the patch :)

	Jeff




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* Re: More ATA corner cases
  2006-08-16 22:50 ` Mark Lord
@ 2006-08-17  0:38   ` Alan Cox
  2006-08-17  0:52     ` Mark Lord
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2006-08-17  0:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Lord; +Cc: jgarzik, linux-ide

Ar Mer, 2006-08-16 am 18:50 -0400, ysgrifennodd Mark Lord:
> Alan Cox wrote:
> > Any objection to me adding a new cable type for "40 wire ATA66 capable"
> > to indicate the laptop vendor has been sneaky and we should do full UDMA
> > ranges regardless of drive or other controller reporting.
> 
> Good.  I'll need that feature for a little mini-ITX box here as well.
> It uses a *really short* 40W cable for UDMA4 operation.

Can you send me the dmidecode output and the lspci -vxxx for it so I can
find something to autodetect this.


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* Re: More ATA corner cases
  2006-08-17  0:38   ` Alan Cox
@ 2006-08-17  0:52     ` Mark Lord
  2006-08-17  2:57       ` Albert Lee
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mark Lord @ 2006-08-17  0:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox; +Cc: jgarzik, linux-ide

Alan Cox wrote:
> Ar Mer, 2006-08-16 am 18:50 -0400, ysgrifennodd Mark Lord:
>> Alan Cox wrote:
>>> Any objection to me adding a new cable type for "40 wire ATA66 capable"
>>> to indicate the laptop vendor has been sneaky and we should do full UDMA
>>> ranges regardless of drive or other controller reporting.
>> Good.  I'll need that feature for a little mini-ITX box here as well.
>> It uses a *really short* 40W cable for UDMA4 operation.
> 
> Can you send me the dmidecode output and the lspci -vxxx for it so I can
> find something to autodetect this.

No autodetection possible here -- custom configuration.

All I need is a modparam or /sys attrib that I can set.

Thanks.

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* Re: More ATA corner cases
  2006-08-17  0:52     ` Mark Lord
@ 2006-08-17  2:57       ` Albert Lee
  2006-08-17  8:28         ` Alan Cox
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Albert Lee @ 2006-08-17  2:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Lord, Alan Cox; +Cc: jgarzik, linux-ide, Doug Maxey, Unicorn Chang

Mark Lord wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
> 
>> Ar Mer, 2006-08-16 am 18:50 -0400, ysgrifennodd Mark Lord:
>>
>>> Alan Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any objection to me adding a new cable type for "40 wire ATA66 capable"
>>>> to indicate the laptop vendor has been sneaky and we should do full
>>>> UDMA
>>>> ranges regardless of drive or other controller reporting.
>>>
>>> Good.  I'll need that feature for a little mini-ITX box here as well.
>>> It uses a *really short* 40W cable for UDMA4 operation.
>>
>>
>> Can you send me the dmidecode output and the lspci -vxxx for it so I can
>> find something to autodetect this.
> 
> 
> No autodetection possible here -- custom configuration.
> 
> All I need is a modparam or /sys attrib that I can set.
> 

This problem was also seen on the IBM JS20 blade server:
The on-board IDE wires are short enough and capable of UDMA/66, but the
cable detection limits the speed to UDMA/33.
It will be nice to have the "40 wire ATA66 capable" support.

Don't know whether the JS20 can be added to the whitelist automatically.
If Alan is ok, will ask Unicorn's help to sent Alan the dmidecode and
lspci -vxxx data of JS20 (and maybe other blades like HS20/HS40, etc).

--
albert





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* Re: More ATA corner cases
  2006-08-17  2:57       ` Albert Lee
@ 2006-08-17  8:28         ` Alan Cox
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2006-08-17  8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: albertl; +Cc: Mark Lord, jgarzik, linux-ide, Doug Maxey, Unicorn Chang

Ar Iau, 2006-08-17 am 10:57 +0800, ysgrifennodd Albert Lee:
> Don't know whether the JS20 can be added to the whitelist automatically.
> If Alan is ok, will ask Unicorn's help to sent Alan the dmidecode and
> lspci -vxxx data of JS20 (and maybe other blades like HS20/HS40, etc).

If they have unique PCI subsystem identifiers then it should be easy to
do.


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