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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: brking@us.ibm.com
Cc: jgarzik@pobox.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, mlord@pobox.com,
	albertcc@tw.ibm.com, uchang@tw.ibm.com, forrest.zhao@intel.com,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] libata: implement new initialization model w/ iomap support, take 2
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:12:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F16FF8.7010706@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44EB80BB.5040309@us.ibm.com>

Hello,

Brian King wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Brian, can you please take a look at how LLDs use new init functions
>> and see if SAS can use the same approach?  If you pass NULL as @sht to
>> ata_host_alloc(), it won't associate ports as part of Scsi_Host just
>> as ata_sas_port_alloc() does and ata_host_free() will do the right
>> thing when freeing a host allocated that way.
> 
> I started looking through your patch set and have a few comments.
> 
> The idea of a static number of "ata ports" per ata host in SAS doesn't
> really work. Since you can have ATA devices under a SAS expander, the
> number of possible ATA devices that can be attached to a SAS adapter
> can be rather large and can change depending on the SAS fabric. If libata
> ever needed to iterate over the ata_port's for a SAS ata_host, then we would
> probably need to convert the static array of ata_ports to a linked
> list, allowing it to be more dynamic.

Making the array dynamically-sized isn't difficult at all; however, the 
current libata code assumes that ata_host->ports[] array is packed - ie. 
no intervening empty entry.  Can SAS keep this restriction or does it 
need more flexibility?

> Object lifetime rules also have me concerned. Currently, for SAS,
> there are a couple objects that libata is concerned with. The first is
> an ata_host_set, which I am allocating as part of the scsi_host struct,
> so it inherits the object lifetime rules of that. The second is the
> ata_port, which I allocate and free in target_alloc/target_destroy,
> so I get refcounting for free there as well. Your patch set introduces
> an ata_host struct, which is kmalloc'ed and doesn't inherit any of the
> above refcounting. 

Actually, ata_host is ata_host_set.  It's just renamed recently.

cca3974e48607c3775dc73b544a5700b2e37c21a in libata-dev#upstream

Hmmm.... I was kind of hoping SAS could use ata_host_alloc() and store 
its pointer and then later release it w/ ata_host_free(), hmmm.. maybe 
you can call ata_host_free from ->slave_destroy?.  That gives libata 
more control over the host structure (e.g. if we implement dynamic ports 
array, it needs to be freed too).  Port lifetime rules aren't changed by 
these updates and host free does need some changes but IMHO that 
shouldn't be difficult.

>> sata_sil24.c is a pretty straight-forward example.  If you can't
>> determine the number of ports when allocating host, please take a look
>> at how ahci.c initializes its host.
>>
>> The intention was to allow SAS to use all the regular init/deinit
>> functions just as other LLDs.  If something doesn't seem to be right,
>> please let me know.
> 
> I think it can use bits of it, but I think the actual device discovery
> process is better initiated by the SAS layer. The SAS layer knows what
> devices are out there when it does discovery and can tell libata about
> them.

Hmmm.... I see.  Something like ata_dev_attach(adev) after initialized 
by SAS maybe?

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-27 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-19  8:57 [PATCHSET] libata: implement new initialization model w/ iomap support, take 2 Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 2/20] libata: implement ata_host_start/stop() Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 1/20] libata: kill ata_host_stop() Tejun Heo
2006-08-19 14:51   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19 15:29     ` Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  4:46   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-19  4:50     ` Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 7/20] libata: implement PCI ATA init helpers Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:29   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 4/20] libata: separate out ata_host_alloc() and ata_host_attach() Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:08   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-19  5:48     ` Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 3/20] libata: implement ata_host_detach() and ata_host_free() Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  4:59   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 5/20] libata: implement several LLD init helpers Tejun Heo
2006-08-22 22:11   ` Brian King
2006-08-27  9:52     ` Tejun Heo
2006-08-30 21:16       ` Brian King
2006-09-19  5:16   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-19  5:57     ` Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 6/20] libata: implement legacy ATA " Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:26   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 12/20] libata: kill old " Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 13/20] libata: kill unused ->host_stop() operation and related functions Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:42   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 10/20] libata: reimplement ata_pci_remove_one() using new PCI init helpers Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 11/20] libata: use remove_one() for deinit instead of ->host_stop() Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:42   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 8/20] libata: reimplement ata_pci_init_one() using new init helpers Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:32   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-19  6:04     ` Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  6:09       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 14/20] libata: use LLD name where possible Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:43   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 17/20] libata: make ata_pci_acquire_resources() handle iomap Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:47   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-19  6:27     ` Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  6:32       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 19/20] libata: kill unused ATA_FLAG_MMIO Tejun Heo
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 16/20] libata: make ata_host_alloc() take care of hpriv alloc/free Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:45   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 15/20] libata: move ->irq_handler from port_ops to port_info Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:43   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-19  8:59 ` [PATCH 20/20] libata: move scattered PCI ATA functions into liata-pci.c Tejun Heo
2006-09-19  5:50   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-22 22:10 ` [PATCHSET] libata: implement new initialization model w/ iomap support, take 2 Brian King
2006-08-27 10:12   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2006-08-30 20:58     ` Brian King
2006-09-01 13:45       ` Tejun Heo
2006-09-07 13:22         ` Brian King

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