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From: Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libata: fix ATA passthrough handling for ATAPI devices
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:11:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <453AA91D.8060803@torque.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <453A93CB.9000008@pobox.com>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Douglas Gilbert wrote:
>> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>> I'm talking about the changes to the implementation, which appear to
>>> mistakenly allow 16-byte CDBs through to the ATAPI device, even if it
>>> only supports 12-byte CDBs.
>>>
>>> I am quite aware of the ATA passthru SCSI command.  Heck, the spec had
>>> input from me.  I'm talking about something different.
> 
>> The above were attempts to send IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE
>> to the PATAPI cd/dvd drive via the ATA PASS THROUGH
>> (16 and 12) commands respectively. The first one caught
>> my attention. Why did it fail with a DID_ABORT?
>>
>> Whatever the reason both responses are wrong. The second
>> one is wrong because
>>   - the cd/dvd drive does support that opcode (the error
>>     should be either not ready or incompatible format), or
>>   - it didn't do the ATA PASS THROUGH (12) properly
> 
> The thread has moved on from discussing the acknowledged problem to
> discussing the solution.
> 
> To summarize my quoted email above, I'm talking about problems with the
> implementation details.  There are two engineering constraints which a
> solution must not violate:

> 1) The kernel must prevent 16-byte non-passthru commands from reaching
> 12-byte-only ATAPI devices.

I would prefer to see the command sent through until
it hits a transport that cannot carry a 16 byte cdb.
That transport may be in an external enclosure, or
the limitation may have been removed.

> 2) Existing in-the-field solutions that issue commands such as BLANK or
> a vendor-reserved 0x85 opcode must continue working, without recompile.

Opcodes 0x85 and 0xa1 are not vendor reserved. They have
been reserved for t10.org use since SCSI-2. Other SCSI
opcode ranges are set aside for vendor use.
The BLANK problems remains.

Doug Gilbert

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-21 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-20  5:09 [PATCH] libata: fix ATA passthrough handling for ATAPI devices Tejun Heo
2006-10-21 19:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-21 20:00   ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-10-21 20:13     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-21 21:18       ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-10-21 21:40         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-21 23:11           ` Douglas Gilbert [this message]
2006-10-23  2:55             ` Tejun Heo
2006-10-23 13:58               ` Douglas Gilbert
2006-11-01  2:03 ` Jeff Garzik

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