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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Gary Hade <garyhade@us.ibm.com>,
	Kovid Goyal <kovid@theory.caltech.edu>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, lcm@us.ibm.com, konradr@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [2.6.18,19] SATA boot problems (ICH6/ICH6W)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:24:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45C0B4B8.4000100@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45C096C1.1030905@gmail.com>

Tejun Heo wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>>> Some SATA controllers use 0xff to indicate empty port.  This seldomly
>>> matters as we have the almighty SStatus register to check device
>>> presence (there is a bug regarding this, patch pending).
>>>
>>> This GoVault drive fails because ata_piix doesn't have SCR while using
>>> 0xff to indicate port not ready (dunno exact which state causes 0xff
>>> status tho) while the GoVault drive fails to clear that state in 150ms
>>> (not 30s).  The libata sees 0xff after SRST if GoVault drive is attached
>> So we can also cut this down by only doing the extra polling on a device
>> which is SATA and lacks SCR ?
> 
> That's true but the offending one is ata_piix, so the cutting down is
> not as effective.  If we can live with the extra two secs per empty port
> for some of ata_piix for the time being (maybe two or three releases),
> the delay can be added now.  One more thing to consider is GoVault is
> the only known device to show this behavior till now.
> 
> Hmm... What do you (Alan and Jeff) think?

That last factor weighs on my mind.

While I don't mind making changes for this device, and taking into 
consideration Alan's recent comments that some ATAPI workarounds are 
still yet to appear for libata, I still dislike making changes for one 
specific device with non-standard behavior.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-31 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-11 18:03 [2.6.18,19] SATA boot problems (ICH6/ICH6W) Kovid Goyal
2006-12-20  0:44 ` Tejun Heo
2006-12-20  2:00   ` Kovid Goyal
2006-12-20  2:13     ` Tejun Heo
2006-12-20  4:56       ` Kovid Goyal
2007-01-11 23:32       ` Kovid Goyal
2007-01-13  2:19         ` Tejun Heo
2006-12-20  3:29   ` Gary Hade
2006-12-20  3:53     ` Tejun Heo
2006-12-20  4:30       ` Tejun Heo
2006-12-21 17:10       ` Gary Hade
2007-01-30  1:55         ` Gary Hade
2007-01-30  7:32           ` Tejun Heo
2007-01-30 23:37             ` Gary Hade
2007-01-31  0:54               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 11:00                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-01-31 12:20                   ` Alan
2007-01-31 13:16                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-01-31 15:24                       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-01-31 15:30                         ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 10:44               ` Tejun Heo
2007-01-31 10:47                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 11:00                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-01  0:49                 ` Gary Hade
2007-02-17  0:34               ` Gary Hade
2007-02-21 12:40                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-22  0:41                   ` Gary Hade
2007-02-23  0:32                   ` Gary Hade
2007-01-23 21:49 ` danieljzhang

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