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From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>,
	"Eric D. Mudama" <edmudama@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	dougg@torque.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi_lib.c: continue after MEDIUM_ERROR
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:37:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45C0E204.3030901@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1170267198.3402.58.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>

James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 12:57 -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>>> When libata reports a MEDIUM_ERROR to us, we *know* it's non-recoverable,
>>>> as the drive itself has already done internal retries (libata uses the
>>>> "with retry" ATA opcodes for this).
>>> This depends on the firmware. Some of the "raid firmware" drives don't
>>> appear to do retries in firmware.
>> One way to tell if this is true, is simply to time how long
>> the failed operation takes.  If the drive truly does not do retries,
>> then the media error should be reported more or less instantly
>> (assuming drive was already spun up).
> 
> Well, the simpler way (and one we have a hope of implementing) is to
> examine the ASC/ASCQ codes to see if the error is genuinely unretryable.

My suggestion above was not for a kernel fix,
but rather just as a way of determining if drives
which claim "no retries" actually do them or not.  :)

> I seem to have dropped the ball on this one in that the scsi_error.c
> pieces of this patch
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-scsi&m=116485834119885
> 
> I thought I'd applied.  Apparently I didn't, so I'll go back and put
> them in.

Good.  That would be a useful supplement to the patch I posted here.

Cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-31 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-31  0:47 [PATCH] scsi_lib.c: continue after MEDIUM_ERROR Mark Lord
2007-01-31  1:12 ` [PATCH] RESEND " Mark Lord
2007-01-31  1:16 ` [PATCH] " James Bottomley
2007-01-31  1:36   ` Mark Lord
     [not found]   ` <311601c90701301725n53d25a74g652b7ca3bfc64c56@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-31  1:41     ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31  3:20       ` Ric Wheeler
2007-01-31  4:21         ` James Bottomley
2007-01-31 15:13           ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 15:22             ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 15:24             ` James Bottomley
2007-01-31  5:09         ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-01-31 15:08         ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 15:23           ` Alan
2007-01-31 16:35             ` Ric Wheeler
2007-01-31 17:57             ` Mark Lord
2007-01-31 18:13               ` James Bottomley
2007-01-31 18:37                 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2007-01-31  9:30       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 14:36         ` Ric Wheeler
2007-01-31 15:28           ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-01-31 15:38             ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 20:02   ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 21:55     ` James Bottomley
2007-02-02  2:48       ` Mark Lord
2007-02-02 12:20       ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-02 14:42         ` Alan
2007-02-02 14:53           ` James Bottomley
2007-02-02 16:16             ` Ric Wheeler
2007-02-02 20:16           ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-02-02 14:50         ` Alan
2007-02-02 16:06           ` Mark Lord
2007-02-02 19:49             ` Matt Mackall
2007-02-02 22:58               ` Mark Lord
2007-02-02 23:07                 ` Matt Mackall

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