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From: Brian King <brking@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: jeff@garzik.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/12] libata: separate out ata_host_alloc() and ata_host_attach()
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:25:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F813F0.9070003@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45F77EB3.5000108@gmail.com>

Tejun Heo wrote:
> Brian King wrote:
>> For SAS, the scsi_host pointer in the ata port is NULL today, since libata
>> is really not managing the scsi host, the LLDD is. I think the initialization
>> model we want for SAS is a little different than the one you are heading
>> towards on SATA. For SAS, I think we just want to be able to alloc/init
>> and delete/destroy a SATA device a they show up on the transport,
>> without tying it to initialization of the ata host. And this set of
>> patches doesn't necessarily prevent that...
> 
> Yeap, I tried to keep SAS bridge functions working.  If SAS doesn't need 
> the host abstraction and wanna do stuff per-port basis, ata_port_alloc() 
> can be directly exported and separating out per-port register routine 
> shouldn't be too difficult, but I do think it would still be beneficial 
> to have ata_host structure in SAS case too for code simplicity if not 
> for anything else.

I think having the ata_host structure for SAS is fine. It's just a matter
of how much of what ends up in it actually gets used for SAS.

>> Regarding holding all command execution on the host while performing eh,
>> that doesn't seem to be a huge issue from my perspective, not sure if
>> this would have a larger negative impact on others... Generally speaking,
>> we shouldn't be entering eh very often, and it should only be happening
>> if something went wrong. The biggest issue here might be ATAPI devices,
>> since they tend to report more errors during normal running. The request
>> sense for these devices for SAS is done without entering eh today. Would
>> you want to move this into eh as well?
> 
> No, not for SAS.  The reasons why I put sense requesting to EH were...
> 
> 1. to make fast path code straight forward (no qc reusing dance)
> 
> 2. in native ATA, we have per-port EH thread so sharing is not a problem.
> 
> As #2 is not true in SAS case, I think keeping sense requesting out of 
> EH is the right thing to do here.  I still think that it's much 
> simpler/reliable to handle any exception case in a separate thread.  I 
> think this in the long term should be solved by making EH per-request 
> queue (we of course will need mechanism to synchronize several EHs so 
> that we can take host-wide EH actions).

Agreed.

Brian

-- 
Brian King
eServer Storage I/O
IBM Linux Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-14 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-09 11:15 [PATCHSET] libata: implement new initialization model, take #3 Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 01/12] libata: allocate ap separately from shost Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 15:00   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 02/12] libata: separate out ata_host_start() Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 04/12] libata: implement ata_host_alloc_pinfo() and ata_host_attach() Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 16:08   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 05/12] libata: convert legacy PCI host handling to new init model Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 17:46   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 03/12] libata: separate out ata_host_alloc() and ata_host_attach() Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 15:34   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-12 22:25   ` Brian King
2007-03-13  6:06     ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-13 22:34       ` Brian King
2007-03-14  4:48         ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-14 15:25           ` Brian King [this message]
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 10/12] libata: convert the remaining SATA drivers to new init model Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 09/12] libata: convert ata_pci_init_native_mode() users " Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 12/12] libata: kill probe_ent and related helpers Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 11/12] libata: convert the remaining PATA drivers to new init model Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 12:49   ` Alan Cox
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 06/12] libata: convert native PCI host handling " Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 15:45   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 08/12] libata: convert drivers with combined SATA/PATA ports " Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 12:46   ` Alan Cox
2007-03-09 11:55     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-09 13:04       ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-09 11:15 ` [PATCH 07/12] libata: add init helpers including ata_pci_prepare_native_host() Tejun Heo

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