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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: gregkh@suse.de, hugh@veritas.com, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
	oneukum@suse.de, maneesh@in.ibm.com, rpurdie@rpsys.net,
	James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD driver-core] Lifetime problems of the current driver model
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:12:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <460DD1B0.4080605@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070330213101.7aa7babf@gondolin.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>

Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:08:19 +0900,
> Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> (3) make sure all existing kobjects are released by module exit function.
>>
>> For example, let's say there is a hypothetical disk device /dev/dk0
>> driven by a hypothetical driver mydrv.  /dev/dk0 is represented like the
>> following in the sysfs tree.
>>
>> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.0/dk0/{myknob0,myknob1}
>>
>> Owner of both attrs myknob0 and myknob1 is mydrv and opening either
>> increases the reference counts of dk0 and mydrv and closing does the
>> opposite.
>>
>> * When there is no opener of either knob and the /dev/dk0 isn't used by
>> anyone.  Reference count of dk0 is 1, mydrv 0.
> 
> Hm, but as long as dk0 is registered, it can be looked up and someone
> could get a reference on it.

Yeah, exactly.  That's why any getting any kobject reference backed by a
module must be accompanied by try_module_get().

int mydrv_get_dk(struct dk *dk)
{
	rc = try_module_get(mydrv);
	if (rc)
		return rc;
	kobject_get(&dk->kobj);
	return 0;
}

>> * User issues rmmod mydrv.  As mydrv's reference count is zero, unload
>> proceeds and mydrv's exit function is called.
>>
>> * mydrv's exit function looks like the following.
>>
>>   mydrv_exit()
>>   {
>> 	sysfs_remove_file(dk0, myknob0);
>> 	sysfs_remove_file(dk1, myknob1);
>> 	device_del(dk0);
>> 	deinit controller;
>> 	release all resources;
>>   }
>>
>> The device_del(dk0) drops dk0's reference count to zero and its
>> ->release is invoked immediately.
> 
> And here is the problem if someone else still has a reference. The
> module will be unloaded, but ->release will not be called until the
> "someone else" gives up the reference...

Exactly, in that case, module reference count must not be zero.  You and
I are saying the same thing.  Why are we running in circle?

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-31  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <460CDBA6.5030608@gmail.com>
2007-03-30 12:29 ` [RFD driver-core] Lifetime problems of the current driver model James Bottomley
2007-03-30 13:15   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-03-30 13:38   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <d120d5000703300615y7b367d82hb42f1c58ca8a6328@mail.gmail.com>
2007-03-30 17:58     ` James Bottomley
2007-03-30 18:18       ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]   ` <460D12B8.6050101@gmail.com>
2007-03-30 17:41     ` Greg KH
2007-03-30 18:19     ` James Bottomley
2007-04-01 19:59       ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-02  9:20         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-02 15:34           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-03  3:08             ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-02  9:33         ` Greg KH
2007-04-02 12:10         ` Maneesh Soni
2007-04-02 19:33       ` Luben Tuikov
2007-03-30 13:19 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-30 13:19   ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-30 13:40     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-30 13:58       ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-30 14:52         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-30 15:08           ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-30 19:31             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-31  3:12               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-03-31  3:15                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-31 16:08                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-03-31 16:14                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-02 19:24                 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-03-30 17:38 ` Greg KH
2007-03-30  9:43 Tejun Heo

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