From: Stephen Clark <Stephen.Clark@seclark.us>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
7eggert@gmx.de, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
emisca <emisca.ml@gmail.com>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:39:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46261F92.2080607@seclark.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070418140346.636879a1@the-village.bc.nu>
Alan Cox wrote:
>>Thought about that and querying power state before doing shutdown
>>sequence but things get somewhat ugly because shutdown sequence is
>>driven from sd->shutdown(). We'll have to snoop both sync and shutdown
>>commands and check whether the system is shutting down. Also, I felt
>>very uneasy about faking successful completion to SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE.
>>
>>
>
>If you see a synchronize cache succeed and you then see the drive
>shutdown succeed then you know that a sync cache can be faked as ok
>safely. Any other command in between or after and it doesn't get faked
>
>This seems pretty easy to deal with at command issue.
>
>
>
>>I dunno. It's already too late for 2.6.21. I was hoping we could get
>>distros to update shutdown utilities in not-too-distant future but I
>>have no experience with that. Is that just a wishful thinking?
>>
>>
>
>Probably not, but it will take a year or so and throughout this time
>period everyone with the wrong combination of shutdown and kernel (which
>will be a lot of people who compile their own kernels) are going to have
>problems caused by what is a very obscure piece of libata internal
>behaviour they'll never even know about.
>
>
>
So this is the pop I hear on my new laptop that is using
libata=combined_mode
when I shut my system down. I didn't get the pop with the same disk
drive in an older
laptop that was only ide. It sounds like a relay closing or opening,
but is really my
drive head doing an emergency retract/park?
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2007-04-18 11:47 ` Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot Bodo Eggert
2007-04-18 12:05 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 12:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 12:46 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 12:50 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:03 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 13:05 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 13:39 ` Stephen Clark [this message]
2007-04-19 7:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-19 12:59 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 13:32 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:32 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 14:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:06 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 15:16 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 15:25 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 17:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:19 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 17:46 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:22 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-18 21:27 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-21 23:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 23:27 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-18 21:29 ` Greg Freemyer
2007-04-18 17:46 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-19 17:50 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-20 12:15 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-20 19:57 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21 9:45 ` emisca
2007-04-21 9:50 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-21 14:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-21 15:11 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-18 17:04 ` Stephen Clark
2007-04-11 21:07 Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 21:35 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-11 21:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 22:07 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 19:42 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 19:36 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-13 20:47 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-13 21:13 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-15 16:07 ` emisca
2007-04-17 21:41 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-17 21:49 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17 22:03 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 5:39 ` Tejun Heo
2007-04-18 21:31 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-04-18 23:36 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-18 23:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-14 10:52 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-15 15:53 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-15 18:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-16 22:26 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-04-17 7:00 ` emisca
2007-04-17 7:37 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-04-17 20:15 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
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