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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, garyhade@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: sd_resume redundant?  [was: [PATCH] libata: implement        ata_wait_after_reset()]
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:17:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465082BF.2070306@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1345.81.207.0.53.1179671262.squirrel@secure.samage.net>

Indan Zupancic wrote:
>> Can you try to measure with sd_resume in place?
> 
> [    2.173366] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
> [    2.475422] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 310)
> [    5.478403] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
> [    5.481928] ata1.00: ata_hpa_resize 1: sectors = 234441648, hpa_sectors = 234441648
> [    5.485904] ata1.00: ata_hpa_resize 1: sectors = 234441648, hpa_sectors = 234441648
> [    5.485913] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
> [    5.505109] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors (120034 MB)
> [    5.505461] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> [    5.505465] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> [    5.505612] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or
> FUA
> ...
> [    6.157259] Restarting tasks ... done.
> 
> 
> And with echo 0 > /sys/class/scsi_disk/0\:0\:0\:0/manage_start_stop:
> 
> [    2.476476] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 310)
> ...
> [    2.825479] Restarting tasks ... done.
> ...
> [    5.022076] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
> [    5.025605] ata1.00: ata_hpa_resize 1: sectors = 234441648, hpa_sectors = 234441648
> [    5.028594] ata1.00: ata_hpa_resize 1: sectors = 234441648, hpa_sectors = 234441648
> [    5.028606] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
> [    5.028720] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 234441648 512-byte hardware sectors (120034 MB)
> [    5.028767] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> [    5.028773] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> [    5.028831] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or
> FUA
> 
> So over all it takes half a second longer to detect the disk, but
> because everything waits on it, it takes more than three seconds
> longer to resume.

Eeeek.  Extra three secs doesn't sound too hot.  :-(

> Setting manage_start_stop to 0 fixes it and is good enough for me, I
> didn't notice anything bad yet because of the unmanaged
> stop. Implementing background spin up will fix it too.

Just commenting out sd_resume() would be a better solution for your
case tho.

>>> Everything seems to work fine without sd_resume(), so why is it needed?
>> Because not all disks spin up without being told to do so and like it or
>> not spinning disks up on resume is the default behavior.  As I wrote in
>> the other reply, it would be worthwhile to make it configurable.
> 
> Not even after they receive a read command? Ugh.

After receiving a command which requires media access, they do.  What
I was saying is that the current default behavior is to spin up all
devices on resume and part of that is achieved by sd_resume().

Hmmm... skipping START_STOP during sd_resume() actually is a pretty
good solution for ATA devices.  I'll think about it.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-20 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-10  7:20 libata reset-seq merge broke sata_sil on sh Paul Mundt
2007-05-10 11:28 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-10 11:53   ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-10 12:46   ` Paul Mundt
2007-05-10 13:08     ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-11  0:52       ` Paul Mundt
2007-05-11  9:39         ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-12  3:49           ` Paul Mundt
2007-05-16  0:30             ` Paul Mundt
2007-05-16 16:44               ` [PATCH] libata: implement ata_wait_after_reset() Tejun Heo
2007-05-17  0:50                 ` Paul Mundt
2007-05-17  0:59                 ` Paul Mundt
2007-05-19 15:54                 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-19 18:23                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-19 22:54                     ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-20  9:50                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-20 13:26                         ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-20 17:09                           ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-20 19:35                             ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-19 16:39                 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-19 18:43                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-19 19:04                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-19 22:33                       ` sd_resume redundant? [was: [PATCH] libata: implement ata_wait_after_reset()] Indan Zupancic
2007-05-20  9:54                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-20 14:27                           ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-20 17:17                             ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-05-20 19:47                               ` Indan Zupancic
2007-05-21  6:02                       ` [PATCH] libata: implement ata_wait_after_reset() Paul Mundt
2007-05-29  1:31                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-29  7:33                   ` Tejun Heo
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2007-05-20 18:53             ` sd_resume redundant? [was: [PATCH] libata: implement ata_wait_after_reset()] Randy Dunlap
2007-05-20 22:25               ` Robert Hancock

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