From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
Michael Sedkowski <sedmich@gmail.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:14:24 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B90AE0.2070403@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.Z030SpvZYAHux0f8UtlnJwatsvY@ifi.uio.no>
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> emergency unload. Emergency unload does shorten the lifespan of the
>> disk but you don't have to worry too much about it. Disks are designed
>> to withstand certain number of emergency unloads.
>
> You *do* have to worry about it in any box you turn off daily. Desktop HDs
> will croak fast in that scenario, laptop HDs less so, but still too fast.
>
> A very good laptop HD can last about 20k emergency unloads (this is a unit
> that can do about 600k normal unloads in its lifetime). Desktop and server
> HDs don't even come close to those numbers, last time I checked.
It only matters on hard drives which actually use load-unload heads.
Lots of desktop/server drives (perhaps some laptop ones as well) still
use contact start/stop, which doesn't remove the heads from the platters
on shutdown but just parks the heads over the landing zone. I don't
think arbitrary power-offs make too much difference on those drives.
(However, these generally aren't rated to handle as many start/stop
cycles, which is why laptop drives generally use load/unload instead.)
--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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2007-08-08 0:14 ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2007-08-08 4:06 ` Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-08 4:26 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-08 18:58 Al Boldi
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2007-08-06 23:31 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-07 6:41 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 14:28 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-07 14:37 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 14:45 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 19:23 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07 20:09 ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-08-07 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-07 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-07 21:28 ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-08-07 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-08 9:29 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-08 2:56 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 12:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-09 21:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-08 2:54 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 14:14 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 14:24 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 14:30 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 15:21 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 15:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 16:20 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 17:04 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-09 15:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-09 18:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-08-08 0:23 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-08 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-08-11 2:21 ` Robert Hancock
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2007-08-06 12:38 Michael Sedkowski
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2007-08-05 21:33 ` Michał sed
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2007-09-08 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-09 9:20 ` Maciek Rutecki
2007-09-09 11:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 5:22 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 14:23 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-06 14:50 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 15:01 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-06 15:27 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 15:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 17:03 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 18:21 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 18:43 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 19:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 19:43 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 22:18 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07 6:56 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 9:18 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07 9:31 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 12:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 9:30 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 23:45 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 6:53 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 12:51 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 13:04 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 13:35 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:09 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 13:32 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:45 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 14:01 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-09 15:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-09 15:56 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-06 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-05 21:37 Michał sed
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