From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
Michael Sedkowski <sedmich@gmail.com>,
trenn@suse.de, Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:21:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B9DF91.7050709@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B9D219.6030509@rtr.ca>
Mark Lord wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Mark Lord wrote:
..
>>>FWIW, Tejun, with 2.6.22, my new Seagate 160GB SATA drive (notebook)
>>>increments the "Power-Off_Retract_Count" on each suspend-to-RAM operation.
>>>It does not do any double spin-up/spin-down things though.
>>
>> Hmmm.. It shouldn't. libata now issues STANDBYNOW prior to entering
>> STR. Can you instrument code a bit and see whether it actually gets
>> issued?
>
> Heh.. I haven't instrumented it yet, but I did discover a bit more about it:
>
> The Power-Off_Retract_Count incrmenents *only* when there's data in the
> on-drive write-cache. So if I haven't written anything significantly large
> before suspending, then it often does NOT increment the retract counter.
>
> But if I copy a couple of multi-MB files around and then suspend (to RAM),
> the retract count gets incremented.
>
> So I've now just stuck "hdparm -F /dev/sda" into my suspend script,
> and that cures the problem completely for me. "-F" does a FLUSH_CACHE,
> and requires a recent copy of hdparm.
>
> Perhaps libata should also do a FLUSH_CACHE before any STANDBYNOW command,
> prior to entering STR, which is what my script is currently now doing..
>
> I'll instrument libata and see what the current sequence is.
Okay, instrumented it and all of that now.
Yes, sd + libata-scsi send the proper FLUSH_CACHE_EXT and STANDBY1 commands
immediately prior to the suspend-to-RAM, and there are no other commands
sneaking through at the same time. Good.
But the retract count still increments if I've recently written a signficant
amount of data.
My suspend script now has this little chunk of code at the point
where it actually does the suspend-to-RAM:
sync; sync
hdparm -F /dev/sda ## flush drive write cache
sleep 1 ## allow time for the flush to complete
echo mem > /sys/power/state ## suspend-to-RAM
Without the "sleep 1", it doesn't always eliminate the extra Retract,
so I hypothesize that the FLUSH_CACHE_EXT command is implemented in
an asynchronous fashion by the drive: it returns immediately before
it has actually completed writing cached data to disk. The "sleep 1"
seems to give it enough time to finish up, at least for me.
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-08 15:21 UTC|newest]
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2007-08-06 23:31 ` Disk spin down issue on shut down/suspend to disk Robert Hancock
2007-08-07 6:41 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 14:28 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-07 14:37 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 14:45 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 19:23 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07 20:09 ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-08-07 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-07 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-07 21:28 ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-08-07 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-08 9:29 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-08 2:56 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 12:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-09 21:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-08 2:54 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 14:14 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 14:24 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 14:30 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 15:21 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2007-08-08 15:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-08 16:20 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-08 17:04 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-09 15:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-09 18:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-08-08 0:23 ` Robert Hancock
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2007-08-11 2:21 ` Robert Hancock
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2007-08-08 0:14 ` Robert Hancock
2007-08-08 4:06 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-08 4:26 ` Robert Hancock
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2007-08-06 12:38 Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-05 21:37 Michał sed
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2007-09-08 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-09-09 9:20 ` Maciek Rutecki
2007-09-09 11:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 5:22 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 14:23 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-06 14:50 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 15:01 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-06 15:27 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 15:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 17:03 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 18:21 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 18:43 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-06 19:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06 19:43 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 22:18 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07 6:56 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 9:18 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-07 9:31 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 12:56 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 9:30 ` Michael Sedkowski
2007-08-06 23:45 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 6:53 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 12:51 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 13:04 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 13:35 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:09 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-07 13:32 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-07 13:45 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-07 14:01 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-09 15:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-09 15:56 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-08-06 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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