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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Polling (was Re: [PATCHSET 2/2] implement PMP support, take 6)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:29:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46FDC6A8.3000306@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46FD5D55.4070706@rtr.ca>

(my last response only addressed -mm)

Mark Lord wrote:
> I believe the point was that getting things into libata is glacial

IMHO would say that there are two causes of that:
1) I am sometimes slow in merging, part of which is my own fault, and I 
can only promise to try and do better there.  Part of which is a result 
of stuff being dependent on -mm (which requires plenty of time 
hand-merging) rather than libata-dev.git#upstream.

2) I have been intentionally staging major libata behavior changes 
between Linux releases.  Luckily most of these are behind us, but, in 
several cases with things like ACPI on/off (hopefully 'on' in 2.6.24), 
probing changes (switchover to new EH for probing via hotplug, etc.), 
interrupt handling changes.

I dislike getting "too much" into a single release, because of the 
difficulty of getting large scale feedback without a major kernel release.

So far I think the kernel releases have been pretty darn successful in 
"not breaking everybody" but that clearly conflicts with desired 
development speed, given the glacial pace of each kernel release.  If 
each kernel release were 1-2 months apart, we would have many more 
testing points, and I think you guys and I would both be happy.  But 
that's not the reality today, with 3+ month kernel release cycles (ugh!!).

I'm very much interested in hearing suggestions and comments.

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-29  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-23  4:19 [PATCHSET 2/2] implement PMP support, take 6 Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 01/10] libata-pmp: update ata_eh_reset() for PMP Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 06/10] sata_sil24: implement PMP support Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 07/10] sata_sil24: implement PORT_RST Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 02/10] libata-pmp: implement Port Multiplier support Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 03/10] libata-pmp: hook PMP support and enable it Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 04/10] libata-pmp: extend ACPI support to cover PMP Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 08/10] ahci: implement PMP support Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 05/10] libata-pmp: implement qc_defer for command switching " Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 09/10] ahci: move host flags over to pi.private_data Tejun Heo
2007-09-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 10/10] ahci: implement AHCI_HFLAG_NO_PMP Tejun Heo
2007-09-26  2:09 ` Polling (was Re: [PATCHSET 2/2] implement PMP support, take 6) Jeff Garzik
2007-09-26  2:12   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-26  8:41   ` Tejun Heo
2007-09-28 12:10     ` Tejun Heo
2007-09-28 13:54     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-28 14:18       ` Tejun Heo
2007-09-28 14:57         ` Alan Cox
2007-09-28 15:20           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-28 15:43             ` Alan Cox
2007-09-28 15:40               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-28 20:00                 ` Mark Lord
2007-09-29  1:49                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-29  3:29                   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-09-29  4:58                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29  5:09                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-29 16:51                     ` Greg Freemyer
2007-09-29 20:56                     ` Alan Cox
2007-10-01 12:28                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-28 15:22         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-28 16:48           ` Tejun Heo
2007-09-28 20:02             ` Mark Lord
2007-09-28 20:25               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-09-28 21:03               ` Alan Cox
2007-09-29  1:43                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-29  5:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-10-01 13:31                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-02  0:11                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-10-02 14:25                       ` Alan Cox
2007-10-02 14:30                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-29 12:32                   ` Mark Lord
2007-10-01 12:38                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-02  0:12                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-10-02 12:56                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-02 13:06                           ` Mark Lord
2007-10-02 13:30                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-06 22:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-10-09  2:09                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-09  6:54                                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-09-28 14:20   ` Mark Lord
2007-09-28 15:36     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-28 15:55       ` Alan Cox

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