From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org>,
linux list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "Fix ATAPI transfer lengths" causes CD writing regression
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:24:51 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47297F43.8050201@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4729209A.50809@gmail.com>
Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Jeff.
>
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> That's easy for the PIO case. But CD writing is normally DMA, which
>> means you will get a DMA engine exception if the device wants to give
>> you more data than the scatter/gather entries permit.
>
> For sense data and mode pages, the standard-sanctioned way to know the
> transfer size is to issue command with short buffer size just enough to
> contain the fixed size header part, determine actual transfer size from
> it and issue the command again with the correct buffer size. This
> doesn't happen for READ/WRITE commands. Transfer sizes are
> pre-determined for those commands and WRITE's to optical devices often
> can't be retried w/o side effect.
>
> I've just went through the ATA spec and this basically means we can't
> use DMA for these variable-transfer-length commands. Some DMA engines
> have "throw away what's left over bit" in its command structure or SG
> entry but not all do and none of drivers we currently has such feature
> enabled.
>
> Hmmm.... reading ide-cd.c::cdrom_pc_intr(). OIC, ide-cd is dealing with
> this problem by draining PIO after BMDMA engine is done. This is
> possible for BMDMA engines as they simply step out when the SG entries
> are exhausted; then, the interrupt handler kicks in and drains the
> left-over using PIO. This just isn't possible with more modern DMA engines.
>
> This really makes me think libata should do these commands via PIO
> unless we're gonna enable leftover draining for each DMA engine
> implementation or blacklist the ones which can't drain individually.
> Then again, nobody really knows how well those features would work as
> probably none has actually used them.
Eeek, please ignore this. I somehow completely forgot about Allocation
Length fields in CDBs.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-01 7:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-30 15:14 "Fix ATAPI transfer lengths" causes CD writing regression Daniel Drake
2007-10-30 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-30 17:45 ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-30 18:26 ` Frans Pop
2007-10-30 19:01 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-30 19:21 ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-31 11:49 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 11:57 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-31 12:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 12:26 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-31 16:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 16:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 16:34 ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-31 17:55 ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-01 0:40 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-01 7:24 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-11-01 10:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 12:49 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 9:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 11:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01 14:15 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 15:33 ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-01 15:57 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-01 16:04 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-02 21:19 ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-03 1:17 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-03 12:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-03 20:02 ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-04 0:07 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-04 4:02 ` Albert Lee
2007-11-04 23:42 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-05 0:05 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-05 13:03 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-06 10:18 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-06 12:48 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-05 0:15 ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-02 17:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-30 16:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-30 16:10 ` Alan Cox
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