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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org>,
	linux list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "Fix ATAPI transfer lengths" causes CD writing regression
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:24:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47297F43.8050201@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4729209A.50809@gmail.com>

Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Jeff.
> 
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> That's easy for the PIO case.  But CD writing is normally DMA, which
>> means you will get a DMA engine exception if the device wants to give
>> you more data than the scatter/gather entries permit.
> 
> For sense data and mode pages, the standard-sanctioned way to know the
> transfer size is to issue command with short buffer size just enough to
> contain the fixed size header part, determine actual transfer size from
> it and issue the command again with the correct buffer size.  This
> doesn't happen for READ/WRITE commands.  Transfer sizes are
> pre-determined for those commands and WRITE's to optical devices often
> can't be retried w/o side effect.
> 
> I've just went through the ATA spec and this basically means we can't
> use DMA for these variable-transfer-length commands.  Some DMA engines
> have "throw away what's left over bit" in its command structure or SG
> entry but not all do and none of drivers we currently has such feature
> enabled.
> 
> Hmmm.... reading ide-cd.c::cdrom_pc_intr().  OIC, ide-cd is dealing with
> this problem by draining PIO after BMDMA engine is done.  This is
> possible for BMDMA engines as they simply step out when the SG entries
> are exhausted; then, the interrupt handler kicks in and drains the
> left-over using PIO.  This just isn't possible with more modern DMA engines.
> 
> This really makes me think libata should do these commands via PIO
> unless we're gonna enable leftover draining for each DMA engine
> implementation or blacklist the ones which can't drain individually.
> Then again, nobody really knows how well those features would work as
> probably none has actually used them.

Eeek, please ignore this.  I somehow completely forgot about Allocation
Length fields in CDBs.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-01  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-30 15:14 "Fix ATAPI transfer lengths" causes CD writing regression Daniel Drake
2007-10-30 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-30 17:45   ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-30 18:26     ` Frans Pop
2007-10-30 19:01     ` Alan Cox
2007-10-30 19:21       ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-31 11:49         ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 11:57           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-31 12:20             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 12:26               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-31 16:05                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 16:29                   ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 16:34                   ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-31 17:55                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-01  0:40               ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-01  7:24                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-11-01 10:50                 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 12:49             ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01  9:48             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01 10:53               ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 11:09                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01 14:15                   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 15:33                     ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-01 15:57                       ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 16:06                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-01 16:04                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-02 21:19                         ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-03  1:17                           ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-03 12:34                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-03 20:02                             ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-04  0:07                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-04  4:02                                 ` Albert Lee
2007-11-04 23:42                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-05  0:05                                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-05 13:03                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-11-06 10:18                                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-06 12:48                                           ` Alan Cox
2007-11-05  0:15                                 ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-02 17:58                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-30 16:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-30 16:10   ` Alan Cox

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