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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Albert Lee <albertcc@tw.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: "Fix ATAPI transfer lengths" causes CD writing regression
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:06:46 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4729F996.4030701@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071101155714.5d1f3b41@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> "one size" that you can supply to the SG_IO command (unless you want to 
>> use a stupidly large buffer) to retrieve all the data at once. Instead, 
>> as Tejun describes, you put a short read request in first, look at byte 
>> 1 of the page which tells you the length, and then read the whole lot.
> 
> ATAPI effectively requires you supply a stupidly large buffer. In theory
> you set the transfer size in the lba registers and it all works. In
> practice some drives ignore this and there isn't a nice reliable way to
> clean up.

The transfer size is specified in Allocation Length field inside CDB of
commands which can transfer variable length data.  I got confused about
this too but both the host and device know how much data can be transferred.

> Welcome to the wonderful world of IDE, where the spec sucks and the
> drives manage to do even worse things.
> 
> We can try and clean up better in these cases at least for PIO transfers
> by trying to drain the data beyond this point, on the controllers that
> cope with this but really - fix the app to reflect reality: ATAPI is SCSI
> as spoken by yokels

Not that I disagree to this point tho.  :-)

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-01 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-30 15:14 "Fix ATAPI transfer lengths" causes CD writing regression Daniel Drake
2007-10-30 15:34 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-30 17:45   ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-30 18:26     ` Frans Pop
2007-10-30 19:01     ` Alan Cox
2007-10-30 19:21       ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-31 11:49         ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 11:57           ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-31 12:20             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 12:26               ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-31 16:05                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 16:29                   ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 16:34                   ` Daniel Drake
2007-10-31 17:55                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-01  0:40               ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-01  7:24                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-01 10:50                 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-31 12:49             ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01  9:48             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01 10:53               ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 11:09                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-01 14:15                   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 15:33                     ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-01 15:57                       ` Alan Cox
2007-11-01 16:06                         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-11-01 16:04                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-02 21:19                         ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-03  1:17                           ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-03 12:34                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-11-03 20:02                             ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-04  0:07                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-04  4:02                                 ` Albert Lee
2007-11-04 23:42                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-05  0:05                                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-05 13:03                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-11-06 10:18                                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-11-06 12:48                                           ` Alan Cox
2007-11-05  0:15                                 ` Daniel Drake
2007-11-02 17:58                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-30 16:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-30 16:10   ` Alan Cox

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