Re: ATA bus error with external hd on esata

Re: ATA bus error with external hd on esata

[Andrew Morton]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:10:47 +0100 Zsolt Barat <zsolt@softmonsters.com> wrote:

> Zsolt Barat schrieb:
> > hi list,

Let's cc the IDE development list.

> > i just bought a "MyBook" called external HD with a fixed enclosure, from
> > WD. Connected to the SATA port i constantly get "ATA bus error" messages
> > in the kernel log. Is this a known issue?
> >
> > /var/log/messages:
> > Dec 15 18:37:53 proto1 ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > action 0x2
> > Dec 15 18:37:53 proto1 ata2.00: irq_stat 0x40000001
> > Dec 15 18:37:53 proto1 ata2.00: cmd 35/00:e0:a7:d2:01/00:01:33:00:00/e0
> > tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 245760 out
> > Dec 15 18:37:53 proto1 res 51/84:00:86:d4:01/00:00:33:00:00/e0 Emask
> > 0x10 (ATA bus error)
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 ata2: soft resetting port
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl
> > 310)
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 ata2: EH complete
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte hardware
> > sectors (500108 MB)
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> > Dec 15 18:37:54 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read
> > cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0
> > action 0x2
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 ata2.00: irq_stat 0x40000001
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 ata2.00: cmd 35/00:80:bf:09:14/00:01:33:00:00/e0
> > tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 196608 out
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 res 51/84:00:3e:0b:14/00:00:33:00:00/e0 Emask
> > 0x10 (ATA bus error)
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 ata2: soft resetting port
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl
> > 310)
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 ata2: EH complete
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte hardware
> > sectors (500108 MB)
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> > Dec 15 18:38:15 proto1 sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read
> > cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> >
> > lspci:
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7910
> > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7912
> > 00:07.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7917
> > 00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
> > 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
> > 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
> > 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
> > 00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
> > 00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
> > 00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
> > 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 SMBus (rev 13)
> > 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
> > 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Azalia
> > 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
> > 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to PCI Bridge
> > 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
> > HyperTransport Technology Configuration
> > 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
> > Address Map
> > 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
> > DRAM Controller
> > 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]
> > Miscellaneous Control
> > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series
> > 01:05.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Audio
> > Controller
> > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
> > 03:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host
> > Controller (rev c0)
> >
> > thanks and best regards
> >
> > zsolt
> >   
> sorry, kernel version is: 2.6.23-gentoo-r1
> 

Re: ATA bus error with external hd on esata

[Greg Freemyer]

On Dec 17, 2007 5:53 AM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:10:47 +0100 Zsolt Barat <zsolt@softmonsters.com> wrote:
>
> > Zsolt Barat schrieb:
> > > hi list,
>
> Let's cc the IDE development list.
>
> > > i just bought a "MyBook" called external HD with a fixed enclosure, from
> > > WD. Connected to the SATA port i constantly get "ATA bus error" messages
> > > in the kernel log. Is this a known issue?
> > >

As an FYI: I've had a lot of problems with the big prepackaged drives
in the last 6 months even from Windows, so I would not be too quick to
blame Linux.

ie.
I bought several 500GB / 1000GB Buffalo Drives last month with plans
to use them from Windows via USB.

I attempted to do a lot of heavy file copying to/from them.  I was
getting a bunch of "Delayed Write Failures",

I finally gave up.

The 500GB drives had a single hard drive internally, so I opened the
case, removed the drive and connected them via standalone external
carriers I had around.  In that mode the drives worked fine (from
Windows).  I've used both standalone eSata external carriers and
standalone USB external carriers with these same physical drives with
no issues.

My conclusion is that the electronics in the prepackaged external
units is just not up to the job if your doing heavy i/o.

Greg
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Re: ATA bus error with external hd on esata

[Jean-Louis Dupond]

Greg Freemyer schreef:
> On Dec 17, 2007 5:53 AM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:10:47 +0100 Zsolt Barat <zsolt@softmonsters.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Zsolt Barat schrieb:
>>>       
>>>> hi list,
>>>>         
>> Let's cc the IDE development list.
>>
>>     
>>>> i just bought a "MyBook" called external HD with a fixed enclosure, from
>>>> WD. Connected to the SATA port i constantly get "ATA bus error" messages
>>>> in the kernel log. Is this a known issue?
>>>>
>>>>         
>
> As an FYI: I've had a lot of problems with the big prepackaged drives
> in the last 6 months even from Windows, so I would not be too quick to
> blame Linux.
>
> ie.
> I bought several 500GB / 1000GB Buffalo Drives last month with plans
> to use them from Windows via USB.
>
> I attempted to do a lot of heavy file copying to/from them.  I was
> getting a bunch of "Delayed Write Failures",
>
> I finally gave up.
>
> The 500GB drives had a single hard drive internally, so I opened the
> case, removed the drive and connected them via standalone external
> carriers I had around.  In that mode the drives worked fine (from
> Windows).  I've used both standalone eSata external carriers and
> standalone USB external carriers with these same physical drives with
> no issues.
>
> My conclusion is that the electronics in the prepackaged external
> units is just not up to the job if your doing heavy i/o.
>
> Greg
>   
Could u check the temps of the disk ? I had that error in windows also 
with to hot disks ! If temp is >50°C I would start to worry :)
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Re: ATA bus error with external hd on esata

[Zsolt Barat]

Greg Freemyer schrieb:
> On Dec 17, 2007 5:53 AM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:10:47 +0100 Zsolt Barat <zsolt@softmonsters.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Zsolt Barat schrieb:
>>>       
>>>> hi list,
>>>>         
>> Let's cc the IDE development list.
>>
>>     
>>>> i just bought a "MyBook" called external HD with a fixed enclosure, from
>>>> WD. Connected to the SATA port i constantly get "ATA bus error" messages
>>>> in the kernel log. Is this a known issue?
>>>>
>>>>         
>
> As an FYI: I've had a lot of problems with the big prepackaged drives
> in the last 6 months even from Windows, so I would not be too quick to
> blame Linux.
>
> ie.
> I bought several 500GB / 1000GB Buffalo Drives last month with plans
> to use them from Windows via USB.
>
> I attempted to do a lot of heavy file copying to/from them.  I was
> getting a bunch of "Delayed Write Failures",
>
> I finally gave up.
>
> The 500GB drives had a single hard drive internally, so I opened the
> case, removed the drive and connected them via standalone external
> carriers I had around.  In that mode the drives worked fine (from
> Windows).  I've used both standalone eSata external carriers and
> standalone USB external carriers with these same physical drives with
> no issues.
>
> My conclusion is that the electronics in the prepackaged external
> units is just not up to the job if your doing heavy i/o.
>
>   
thanks for your answer. the error messages are vanished for now. i
switched on/of the power supply for the hd-box sometimes and then it
suddenly worked normaly. it even negotiates  with  3 Gbps and UDMA/133.

Dec 18 13:05:50 proto1 ata2: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl
300)
Dec 18 13:05:50 proto1 ata2.00: ATA-6: WD      My Book ES, 012, max
UDMA/133

maybe it is the cable, i have to investigate it. it also claimes to have
an automatic power on/off function, whatever this should mean.

best regards

zsolt

Re: ATA bus error with external hd on esata

[Zsolt Barat]

Jean-Louis Dupond schrieb:
> Greg Freemyer schreef:
> > On Dec 17, 2007 5:53 AM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:10:47 +0100 Zsolt Barat <zsolt@softmonsters.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Zsolt Barat schrieb:
> >>>       
> >>>> hi list,
> >>>>         
> >> Let's cc the IDE development list.
> >>
> >>     
> >>>> i just bought a "MyBook" called external HD with a fixed enclosure, from
> >>>> WD. Connected to the SATA port i constantly get "ATA bus error" messages
> >>>> in the kernel log. Is this a known issue?
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >
> > As an FYI: I've had a lot of problems with the big prepackaged drives
> > in the last 6 months even from Windows, so I would not be too quick to
> > blame Linux.
> >
> > ie.
> > I bought several 500GB / 1000GB Buffalo Drives last month with plans
> > to use them from Windows via USB.
> >
> > I attempted to do a lot of heavy file copying to/from them.  I was
> > getting a bunch of "Delayed Write Failures",
> >
> > I finally gave up.
> >
> > The 500GB drives had a single hard drive internally, so I opened the
> > case, removed the drive and connected them via standalone external
> > carriers I had around.  In that mode the drives worked fine (from
> > Windows).  I've used both standalone eSata external carriers and
> > standalone USB external carriers with these same physical drives with
> > no issues.
> >
> > My conclusion is that the electronics in the prepackaged external
> > units is just not up to the job if your doing heavy i/o.
> >
> > Greg
> >   
> Could u check the temps of the disk ? I had that error in windows also with to 
> hot disks ! If temp is >50°C I would start to worry :)
>   
hi,
thanks for your answer. i can't check the temps via software tools, but
i doubt it's the temperature, since it seems to have a fan inbuilt into
the case.

best regards

zsolt


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