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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	kluo@nvidia.com, AMartin@nvidia.com, pchen@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: sata_nv + ADMA + Samsung disk problem
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:55:45 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <477B3571.6080500@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <477B318E.4030309@shaw.ca>

Robert Hancock wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Tejun Heo wrote:
>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.  Nvidia ppl, any ideas?
>>> FLUSH is used regularly.  We really need to fix this.
>>
>>
>> I reiterate my opinion :)  ...   We should remove ADMA support from
>> sata_nv.  It's only in a few chips, it's not appearing in any new
>> chips, and nasty problems have lingered since ADMA support was
>> introduced.
>>
>> Definitely sounds like we should disable ADMA by default for
>> 2.6.24-rc, too.
> 
> I wouldn't agree.. It's only in a few chips (CK804/MCP04), but those
> chips are very common in desktop, workstation, even some server
> machines. Given the huge number of these chips out there, problem
> reports have been quite rare.

I agree with Jeff here.  Maybe not remove but disable it by default and
when enabling warn loudly.  NCQ just doesn't enough for its cost when
the cost includes erratic behaviors.  Only very small fraction of error
cases actually make to bugzilla or this mailing list.

Nvidia gents, is there anyway (be it NDA or whatever) to get Robert or
any of us technical documentation?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-02  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-08 12:08 sata_nv + ADMA + Samsung disk problem Gabor Gombas
2007-08-14  9:30 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-14 12:02   ` Gabor Gombas
2007-08-16 16:06   ` Gabor Gombas
2007-08-16 18:45     ` Jim Paris
2008-01-01 16:44 ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-02  3:25   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-02  4:03     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-02  4:20       ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-02  4:25         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-02  6:19           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-02  6:39             ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-02  6:55               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-01-03  0:27                 ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-02 17:23       ` Allen Martin
2008-01-02 18:57         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-02 23:23           ` Allen Martin
2008-01-03  0:21             ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-03  4:14               ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03  4:17               ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03  4:54                 ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-03 15:44                   ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03 15:47                     ` Mark Lord
2008-01-03 21:13                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-04  1:43                         ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-04  5:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-04  0:41                   ` Allen Martin
2008-01-04  2:51                     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-08  0:10                     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-11 23:18                       ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-12  1:10                         ` Robert Hancock

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