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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Current qc_defer implementation may lead to infinite recursion
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:06:09 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47AFD7C1.7070204@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ir0w4rzo.fsf@denkblock.local>

Elias Oltmanns wrote:
> Hi Tejun,
> 
> due to your commit 31cc23b34913bc173680bdc87af79e551bf8cc0d libata now
> sets max_host_blocked and max_device_blocked to 1 for all devices it
> manages. Under certain conditions this may lead to system lockups due to
> infinite recursion as I have explained to James on the scsi list (kept
> you cc-ed). James told me that it was the business of libata to make
> sure that such a recursion cannot happen.
> 
> In my discussion with James I imprudently claimed that this was easy to
> fix in libata. However, after giving the matter some thought, I'm not at
> all sure as to what exactly should be done about it. The easy bit is
> that max_host_blocked and max_device_blocked should be left alone as
> long as the low level driver does not provide the ->qc_defer() callback.
> But even if the driver has defined this callback, ata_std_qc_defer() for
> one will not prevent this recursion on a uniprocessor, whereas things
> might work out well on an SMP system due to the lock fiddling in the
> scsi midlayer.
> 
> As a conclusion, the current implementation makes it imperative to leave
> max_host_blocked and max_device_blocked alone on a uniprocessor system.
> For SMP systems the current implementation might just be fine but even
> there it might just as well be a good idea to make the adjustment
> depending on ->qc_defer != NULL.

Hmmm... The reason why max_host_blocked and max_device_blocked are set
to 1 is to let libata re-consider status after each command completion
as blocked status can be rather complex w/ PMP.  I haven't really
followed the code yet but you're saying that blocked count of 2 should
be used for that behavior, right?

Another strange thing is that there hasn't been any such lock up /
infinite recursion report till now although ->qc_defer mechanism bas
been used widely for some time now.  Can you reproduce the problem w/o
the disk shock protection?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-11  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-10 17:54 Current qc_defer implementation may lead to infinite recursion Elias Oltmanns
2008-02-11  5:06 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-02-11  7:57   ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-02-11  8:43     ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-11 22:03       ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-02-12  1:14         ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-12  8:57           ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-02-12  9:05             ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-12  9:43               ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-02-12 12:56                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-18 20:03                   ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-04-12  8:02                   ` Elias Oltmanns

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