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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	Saeed Bishara <saeed@marvell.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: new ata_port_operations for .pmp_{read,write} ?
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:03:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C116D4.1090600@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47BFAC06.5030805@rtr.ca>

Hello, Mark.

Mark Lord wrote:
> Mark Lord wrote:
>> An alternative to all this, might be to expose the "select_pmp()"
>> function shown in the sample code, and have libata-pmp.c call that,
>> instead of having the new new .pmp_{read,write} functions. 
> ..
> 
> I wonder if this might be more viable than first thought.
> 
> Say the LLD, be it ata_piix or sata_mv or sata_svw, were to provide
> an option ata_operations method for "select_pmp_port(pmp)",
> which the core could invoke prior to any direct manipulation
> of the shadow registers.

I don't really think that's a good solution.  That's the quickest
solution for sata_mv but it just works around more fundamental problem
of assuming SFF behavior in core layer which we need to drop anyway.

> I really would like to keep the LLD code small, and have good solid
> core routines for non-hardware specific functionality.  All of this stuff
> I'm beginning to do with sata_mv would be trivial if I wanted to bloat
> the LLD, but really.. only a tiny bit of it need be custom to sata_mv.
> 
> The existing SFF reset/probe/pmp stuff is just about exactly what
> sata_mv needs.. and I feel a strong desire to not clone/duplicate
> that hard-won functionality.

I strongly agree but am having difficult time agreeing with the proposed
approach.

> Much of it I can see being shared with other half-and-half chipset drivers
> as we add PMP functionality to those.

Do we have other chips which have PMP support but still uses mixed SFF
interface?

> Maybe that's just the embedded side me showing through?
> 
> It is tricky to define the right interfaces, though, as each chipset
> does throw its own unique curve balls at us.

Yeah, exactly.  I think what needs to be done is to separate out SFF
assumptions from core layer, factor out SFF-proper helpers and use them
to implement LLDs for quasi-SFF controllers.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-24  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-06 21:56 only one drive in a port multiplier system is being recognized Greg Hennessy
2007-11-12  2:58 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <4738827D.9060405@pobox.com>
2007-11-13  1:09     ` What's needed for PMP support? Tejun Heo
2008-02-20 19:03       ` Mark Lord
2008-02-21  3:39         ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-21 15:07           ` Mark Lord
2008-02-21 20:52             ` [PATCH] libata-pmp: clear hob for pmp register accesses Mark Lord
2008-02-21 21:51               ` saeed bishara
2008-02-22  1:40               ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-24  5:29               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-22  0:31         ` What's needed for PMP support? Mark Lord
2008-02-22  0:32           ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22  1:57             ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-22  2:04               ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22  2:12                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-22  2:25                   ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22  2:27                     ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22  3:52                       ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22  4:22                         ` new ata_port_operations for .pmp_{read,write} ? Mark Lord
2008-02-22 14:23                           ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22 14:28                             ` Mark Lord
2008-02-23  0:38                               ` Mark Lord
2008-02-23  2:49                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-23  2:43                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-23  2:59                               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-23  5:15                             ` Mark Lord
2008-02-24  7:03                               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-02-24  7:14                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-25  4:34                                   ` Mark Lord
2008-02-25  4:46                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-25  4:31                                 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-25  4:49                                 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-25  4:56                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-25  5:20                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-25 16:55                                     ` Mark Lord
2008-02-25 23:44                                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-26  0:12                                         ` Mark Lord
2008-02-26  2:01                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-22  9:57             ` What's needed for PMP support? Alan Cox

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