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From: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>
To: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>, Greg KH l <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What to do about the 2TB limit on HDIO_GETGEO ?
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:31:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E90CDA.600@emc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E8FF58.8050209@rtr.ca>



Mark Lord wrote:
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Mark Lord wrote:
>>> The return value uses "unsigned long",
>>> which on a 32-bit system limits drive offsets to 2TB.
>>
>> One relevant question is: does anybody seriously care about the 
>> combination of "32 bit" and "huge modern drives" any more?
>>
>> Sure, we can add a 64-bit version that ends up being used only on 
>> 32-bit systems, but quite frankly, I think the solution here is to 
>> just ignore the issue and see if anybody really even cares.
>>
>> Because quite frankly, the kind of people who buy modern 2TB drives 
>> generally don't then couple them to CPU's that are five+ years old.
> ..
> 
> Yeah.  Except Dell will undoubtedly have them in desktops
> within 2 years, and tons of people (myself included) still use
> 32-bit (K)Ubuntu on our systems, simply for the better binary 
> compatibility that it is perceived to give with things like
> browser plugins and stuff.

I think that there are many embedded applications (lots of them linux based)
which have large amounts of storage behind low power, low cost 32 bit CPU's.

Think of the home/small office NAS boxes that you can get from bestbuy or other 
big box stores. Those devices today have 4 S-ATA drives (each of which can be 
1TB in size).

Also, if you have a very low end box, it can still access really large storage
over iSCSI or a SAN which will present as a local, large device.

Over time, even these low end CPU's will migrate towards 64 bits, but we are not
there yet...

ric




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-25 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <47E875AD.1000901@rtr.ca>
2008-03-25  4:02 ` What to do about the 2TB limit on HDIO_GETGEO ? Mark Lord
2008-03-25  4:19   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-25  5:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 13:37     ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 13:55       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 17:37         ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 19:25           ` Greg KH
2008-03-25 19:34             ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-25 20:36               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 21:20                 ` Greg KH
2008-03-25 21:26                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 23:00                     ` Greg KH
2008-03-25 23:05                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 23:22                         ` Greg KH
2008-03-27 19:05                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-26  0:34             ` Mark Lord
2008-03-26  0:54               ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-26  3:38                 ` Greg KH
2008-03-26  4:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-26  6:04                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-27 19:29                 ` Kay Sievers
2008-03-27 19:38                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-11 23:25                     ` Dan Williams
2008-04-15  7:18                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15 13:47                         ` Mark Lord
2008-04-15 14:20                         ` James Bottomley
2008-04-15 18:16                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-15 23:43                             ` Dan Williams
2008-04-16 20:55                               ` patch sysfs-add-sys-dev-char-block-to-lookup-sysfs-path-by-major-minor.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-03-27 18:51               ` What to do about the 2TB limit on HDIO_GETGEO ? Kay Sievers
2008-03-27 18:55                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-27 19:03                   ` Kay Sievers
2008-03-25 15:17   ` James Bottomley
2008-03-25 17:31     ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 19:32       ` James Bottomley
2008-03-25 17:45     ` Greg Freemyer
2008-03-25 17:52       ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-25 18:09         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-26  9:58           ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-30  4:28       ` Matt Domsch
     [not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803242254020.2775@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008-03-25 13:34   ` Mark Lord
2008-03-25 13:51     ` Greg Freemyer
2008-03-25 14:31     ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2008-03-25 15:25       ` Andrew Paprocki
2008-03-25 15:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-03-25 15:48         ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-25 16:47           ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-25 20:51             ` Theodore Tso
     [not found] <abhxL-xC-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <abhRd-1bf-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <ablib-2zv-65@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <abn0B-735-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <abna7-7jK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <abo6b-11J-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <aboSP-2Wf-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <aboSP-2Wf-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <abqrq-6eX-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <abqrq-6eX-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <abqKM-6Ka-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-03-26 11:30                     ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]                     ` <E1JeTq5-00018y-MO@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2008-03-27  3:52                       ` Greg KH
2008-03-27  4:57                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-27 14:45                         ` Mark Lord
2008-03-27 15:15                           ` Greg KH

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