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From: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, liml@rtr.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET #upstream] libata: improve FLUSH error handling
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:51:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47EBDE84.1070802@emc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12066128663306-git-send-email-htejun@gmail.com>



Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, all.
> 
> I was going through mailbox and saw Alan's patch[A] which didn't get
> the love it deserved.  It turned out that ata_flush_cache() function
> the patch modifies had been dead for some time.  I ended up re-doing
> it in the EH framework and it turned out okay.
> 
> After the patchset, on FLUSH failure, the following is done.
> 
>   1. It's always retried with longer timeout (60s for now) after
>      failure.
> 
>   2. If the device is making progress by retrying, humor it for longer
>      (20 tries for now).
> 
>   3. If the device is fails the command with the same failed sector,
>      retry fewer times (log2 of the original number of tries).
> 
>   4. If retried FLUSH fails for something other than device error,
>      don't keep retrying.  We're likely wasting time.

Are we sure that it is ever the right thing to do to reissue a flush command?

I am worried that this might be much closer to the media error class of device 
errors than something that will benefit from a retry of any type.

Also, I am unclear as to how we measure the progress of the device if the flush 
command has failed?



> As the code is being smart against retrying needlessly, it won't be
> too dangerous to increase the 20 tries (taken from Alan's patch) but I
> think it's as good as any other random number.  If anyone knows any
> meaningful number, please chime in.  The same goes for 60 secs timeout
> too.
> 
> I made a debug patch to trigger timeouts and device errors on FLUSH.
> I'll post the patch as a reply.  It adds the following four module
> params which can be written runtime via /sys/module/libata/parameters.
> 
>   flush_dbg_do_timeout:
> 	If non-zero value is written, the specfied number of FLUSHes
> 	will be timed out.
> 
>   flush_dbg_do_deverr:
> 	If non-zero value is written, the specfied number of FLUSHes
> 	will be terminated with device error.
> 
>   flush_dbg_fail_sector:
> 	The failed sector for the next deverr.
> 
>   flush_dbg_fail_increment:
>         Number of sectors to add to fail_sector after each deverr.
> 
> I tested different scenarios and it all seems to work fine but it
> would be really great if someone can test this on a (hmmm....) live
> dying drive.
> 
> This patchet is for #upstream but generated on top of
> 
>   #upstream-fixes (4cde32fc4b32e96a99063af3183acdfd54c563f0)
> + [1] libata: ATA_EHI_LPM should be ATA_EH_LPM
> 
> as there is a humongous patchset pending review #upstream.  Once this
> gets acked, I'll move it over to #upstream.  It shouldn't interfere
> too much anyway.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

We have access to a fair number of flaky drives, I can see if we can test some 
of this...

ric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-27 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-27 10:14 [PATCHSET #upstream] libata: improve FLUSH error handling Tejun Heo
2008-03-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 1/4] libata: make ata_tf_to_lba[48]() generic Tejun Heo
2008-04-04  7:45   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-03-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 2/4] libata: implement ATA_QCFLAG_RETRY Tejun Heo
2008-03-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] libata: kill unused ata_flush_cache() Tejun Heo
2008-03-27 10:14 ` [PATCH 4/4] libata: improve FLUSH error handling Tejun Heo
2008-04-04  7:46   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-03-27 10:23 ` Debug patch to induce errors on FLUSH Tejun Heo
2008-03-27 14:24 ` [PATCHSET #upstream] libata: improve FLUSH error handling Mark Lord
2008-03-27 14:35   ` Mark Lord
2008-03-27 15:31     ` Alan Cox
2008-03-27 18:01     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-28  1:57     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-28  2:33       ` Mark Lord
2008-03-28 13:36         ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-28 14:52           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-28 14:53             ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-28 15:16               ` Alan Cox
2008-03-28 16:57                 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-28 16:04             ` Mark Lord
2008-03-27 17:53   ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-27 18:52     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-03-27 20:23       ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-28  7:46   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-28  8:30     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-28  8:48       ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-28  8:53         ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-27 17:51 ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2008-03-27 18:53   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-03-27 22:00   ` Alan Cox
2008-03-28  2:02   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-28  9:48     ` Alan Cox

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