From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tejun Heo Subject: Re: No IDE drivers loaded for Toshiba Satellite 320 CDS Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:12:35 +0900 Message-ID: <480679D3.7030705@gmail.com> References: <200804021524.27222.elendil@planet.nl> <20080415144748.GO7385@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <48053AD1.8010007@gmail.com> <200804162008.27655.elendil@planet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.240]:65481 "EHLO rv-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752989AbYDPWMo (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:12:44 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k29so1244855rvb.1 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:12:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200804162008.27655.elendil@planet.nl> Sender: linux-ide-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-ide@vger.kernel.org To: Frans Pop Cc: Lennart Sorensen , Alan Cox , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz Frans Pop wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2008, Tejun Heo wrote: >> Yeah, theoretically, you're right. The problem is that what breaks when >> things go wrong. If you don't probe generic ports by default, harddisks >> won't be detected on some legacy systems but you can always prompt the >> user about loading the generic driver. If you probe generic ports by >> default, when things go wrong, you break modern machines in an >> unrecoverable (w/o reset) way. I'd rather choose bothering the user on >> legacy machines. > > The problem here is determining whether a machine is "legacy" or not. > So far in this discussion I've seen no suggestions how to do that (except > maybe for my test whether /sys/bus/isa is present), which would mean asking > _all_ users, and that's a damned ugly option. Asking when no harddisk is detected w/ the option to choose it explicitly should do for most cases. No? -- tejun