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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	marc.c.dionne@gmail.com, dl9pf@gmx.de,
	bug-track@fisher-privat.net, sitsofe@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: [git patches] libata updates - (improve post-reset device ready test) regression
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:34:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <482541E3.6020001@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4823D4EC.7060407@garzik.org>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> This means that we need to make custom readiness tests for controllers 
>> using 0x77 or 0x7f.  Eeeek... Both groups of controllers are behaving 
>> in incorrect way.  Controllers shouldn't use 0x77 or 0x7f for either 
>> busy or ready states - it's invalid for both, yet, some use the 77/7f 
>> for busy while others use them for ready state.  Great.  :-(
> 
> I think that's assuming too much?  PATA and SATA are quite different 
> here... in PATA the status is mostly the value from the device directly 
> off the wires.  in SATA, it may be from the device or from the 
> controller.  And "smart" or firmware-based controllers may generate 
> their own status, too, apart from the device's status.
 >
> So that results in varied status returns, and not all the time is a 
> definite "ready" or "not ready" obvious.

I think it's pretty safe to say that these weird ready values are from 
TF emulation on controller side.  The ready/not ready distinction is 
probably too simplistic but those values aren't supposed to appear 
during post-reset readiness test.

Sorry about the big regression.  Heh... It's amazing how all the 
controllers I tested didn't show the problem and I did test a good 
number of combinations.

I still think it would be better to have a unified readiness test 
function.  The problem is subtle (device misdetection on hotplug of 
certain drives) and went unnoticed quite some time for JMB ahcis && test 
coverage over those things can't be good.  I'll try to think about 
something better.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-10  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-06 15:48 [git patches] libata updates Jeff Garzik
2008-05-06 16:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 14:56 ` [git patches] libata updates - (improve post-reset device ready test) regression Markus Trippelsdorf
2008-05-07 16:35   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-05-08  3:13     ` Marc Dionne
2008-05-08  9:45     ` Jan-Simon Möller
2008-05-08 15:35   ` [PATCH] " Jeff Garzik
2008-05-08 16:05     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-05-08 16:18       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2008-05-08 17:40         ` Alexey Fisher
2008-05-08 19:21         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-08 21:43     ` J.A. Magallón
2008-05-09 14:54       ` Mark Lord
2008-05-08 21:51     ` Marc Dionne
2008-05-09  2:57     ` Tejun Heo
2008-05-09  3:01       ` Tejun Heo
2008-05-09  4:27         ` Justin Mattock
2008-05-09  3:43       ` Justin Mattock
2008-05-09  4:37       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-05-10  6:34         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-05-09  5:09       ` Alexey Fisher
2008-05-09 10:59       ` Marc Dionne

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