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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: kristen.c.accardi@intel.com, Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ata: ahci: power off unused ports
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:49:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <484440AA.6060202@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48443EB3.8020303@garzik.org>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
>>> Not all drivers will need a user interface to turn off hotplug
>>> I would think.  At any rate - I would think it'd be better to let
>>> driver writers decide how they want their drivers to behave wrt
>>> hotplug and power instead of forcing a generic policy on everyone.
>>>
>>> This patch would provide users of AHCI controllers a way to save
>>> power now, while you work on the grand scheme for polling/turning on 
>>> off
>>> hotplug via sysfs.  It's an interim solution that impacts nobody but
>>> ahci users and is can be easily integrated into whatever solution you
>>> eventually work out.
>
>> I like the patch -  it seems that it will help a lot of users out 
>> near term in a very positive way while we iterate on the broader 
>> solution,
>
> A better patch would enable the _possibility_ of power savings on 
> non-AHCI chips, and not add a one-off AHCI-specific user interface 
> that must be supported for years to come.
>
>     Jeff
I think that the patch does that first part pretty reasonably for all 
chips as Kristen explained before.

If the user interface is the only obstacle and the base code seems to be 
flexible enough for any device to take advantage of, it would still seem 
to be a positive step forward to put in that base functionality (even 
without the module param) to enable power saving.

It is always good to get the complete solution in (how hard can the user 
interface be to code once we agree on what it should be ;-)), but this 
seems to be a good first step.

ric




  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-02 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-08 23:10 [PATCH] ata: ahci: power off unused ports Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-05-08 23:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-05-08 23:35   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-05-09  0:14     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-05-09  0:28       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-05-09 15:58   ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-05-09 16:06     ` Matthew Garrett
2008-05-09 16:14       ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-05-09 17:14         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-05-09 15:06 ` Mark Lord
2008-05-09 15:28   ` Port control interface (was Re: [PATCH] ata: ahci: power off unused ports) Jeff Garzik
2008-05-27  3:08 ` [PATCH] ata: ahci: power off unused ports Theodore Tso
2008-05-27 21:32   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-05-27 22:59     ` Theodore Tso
2008-05-27 23:32       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-05-31  8:00         ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-01 19:16           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02  7:04             ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02  7:43               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02  8:22                 ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02  9:48                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02 13:54                     ` Alan Cox
2008-06-02 16:55                     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-06-02 13:03                 ` Mark Lord
2008-06-02 16:07                   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02 17:00                     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-06-02 17:45                       ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02 17:47                         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-06-02 18:15                           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02 18:16                             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-06-02 18:30                               ` Ric Wheeler
2008-06-02 18:40                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02 18:49                                   ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2008-06-02 18:52                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-02 20:00                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-06-02 18:38                               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-03 16:49                                 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-06-02 17:07                     ` Greg Freemyer
2008-06-02 16:57                   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-06-02 17:44                     ` Jeff Garzik

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