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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	brking@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Separating out libata out of SCSI (finally)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:59:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48610BDC.6090101@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1214318550.3299.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>

James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 11:30 +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>> James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 17:04 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
>>>> I've seen a lot of end user complaints about libata only supporting
>>>> 15(14?) partitions.  Will that limit be moved back to the traditional
>>>> drivers/ide limit as part of this?
>>> Number of partitions is directly related to number of minors, so it
>>> can't be changed without a change in the allocation of major/minor space
>>> in sd ... that could only be done compatibly by permuting the space.
>>> The only other way to do it is incompatibly by changing major (again).
>>>
>> Could we do both? I mean use the legacy, up to 15, with the old major,
>> then use the new major for bigger then 15. Since user mode that knows
>> about more then 15 partitions is new, it'll know it needs to jump a major.
> 
> Not simultaneously, which is the problem; you can't have two separate
> block devices for the same physical device unless you want aliasing
> issues in the page cache.
> 
> It might be possible to add an extra device to give access to the
> missing partitions, but that would require a bit of re-engineering in
> gendisk (which is the in-kernel code to manage the partitions).
> 
> What might be far more feasible is to set up udev to use kpartx to
> provide the missing partitions if it detects a partition table that has
> them ... of course, that requires a udev setup and most of the
> complaints about the lost partitions seem to come from non-udev systems.
> 
> But .... if everyone (particularly the people with these problems) had
> udev, we could simply migrate to a new major with more partitions, get
> udev to fix it all up for us and everyone would be happy because no-one
> would even notice that we'd moved majors ...

I'm currently working on a scheme where partitions above gd->minors get
allocated dynamic MAJ:MIN.  It looks like it can be done mostly in block
layer proper.  The only problem I can foresee is not being able to
specify MAJ:MIN as root device but that shouldn't be a major problem.
I'll report back when I make more progress.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-24 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <485B2CC6.6070201@kernel.org>
2008-06-20 19:41 ` [RFC] Separating out libata out of SCSI (finally) Brian King
2008-06-20 20:28 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-20 22:41   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-06-20 23:50     ` Tejun Heo
2008-06-23 21:04     ` Greg Freemyer
2008-06-23 21:11       ` James Bottomley
2008-06-23 21:56         ` Felix Miata
2008-06-24  8:30         ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 14:42           ` James Bottomley
2008-06-24 14:58             ` Greg Freemyer
2008-06-24 15:13               ` Felix Miata
2008-06-24 14:59             ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-06-24 15:42               ` Felix Miata
2008-06-24 15:49                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-06-24 16:27                   ` Felix Miata
2008-06-24 16:35                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-06-24 16:54               ` Alan Cox
2008-06-20 23:47   ` Tejun Heo

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