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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Shem Multinymous <multinymous@gmail.com>
Cc: Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Laptop shock detection and harddisk protection
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:35:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48C9AB5A.705@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41840b750809111325t30f8ffe2sa4572d401d43dc5a@mail.gmail.com>

Shem Multinymous wrote:
>> That reduction comes because input device supports poll and
>> sysfs_notify_event() does about the same thing.  The uesrland daemon
>> can just poll on a node and read data nodes when poll event on the
>> node triggeres.
> 
> Agreed.
> There's another issue with the current sysfs interface, though: hdapsd
> needs to read (x,y,timestamp) tuples, whereas sysfs provides just x
> and y in separate attributes which cannot be read atomically together.
> We can add a sysfs file with "x y timestamp" readouts, though this is
> unusual for sysfs (and certainly incompatible with hwmon).

Yes, right.  Forgot about the atomicity part altogether.  Thanks for
bringing it up.

>> Unloading heads will be simple.  Just echoing timeout in ms to sysfs
>> nodes, so I don't think it's a good idea to push out actual unloading
>> to another process especially as fork doesn't inherit mlockall.
> 
> I had in mind another daemon listening for "unload now" events, so no
> forking needed.
> This second daemon might make sense if we push the logic of deciding
> *which* disks to unload into userspace, since this logic is the same
> for the ThinkPad style and the HP style.

Hmmm... I can't (yet) see the benefit of having two separate userland
daemons.

>> On a related note, is there any plan to merge tp_smapi to mainline?
>> It seems you put a lot of work into it and I don't really see why it
>> should stay out of tree.
> 
> The only issue I'm aware of is finding a reasonably-named maintainer.
> On the technical side, the reviews on my lkml submission of
> thinkpad_ec+hdaps seemed good and all technical comments are since
> addressed. The code has been stable, well-tested and packaged by major
> distros for years.

Cool, can you please post the patch to the lkml and cc Greg
Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> and me?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-11 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-10 16:59 Laptop shock detection and harddisk protection Tejun Heo
2008-09-10 19:43 ` Renato S. Yamane
2008-09-11 10:26 ` Austin Zhang
2008-09-11 11:18   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-11 16:08 ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-11 16:34   ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-17 19:48     ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-11 20:00     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-08-17 19:51       ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-17 15:21         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-09-17 19:36           ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-11 20:25     ` Shem Multinymous
2008-08-17 19:30       ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-11 23:35       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-09-12 16:59         ` Greg KH
2008-08-17 19:45           ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-17 18:04             ` Greg KH
2008-09-18 11:18               ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-19  9:03                 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-09-24  5:14                   ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 20:40                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-07 21:19                       ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 21:40                         ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-07 22:03                           ` Greg KH
2008-10-07 23:03                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-07 22:55                         ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-15  8:29           ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-15 18:09             ` Shem Multinymous
2008-09-15 20:10               ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-14  4:41       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-11 23:36     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found] <baBmH-48R-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-09-12 13:28 ` Bodo Eggert

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